From the Official site: WADA Compliance Review Committee recommends series of strong consequences for RUSADA non-compliance
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Oh, lord, Rusada is such a fail. 
Poor athletes :disapp:
Poor athletes :disapp:
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All the more incentive for FFKKR to stay clean and far away from any accusations. Which means the athletes and officials will need to be very careful in medicinal practice of course. But also in speech, writing and especially social media. So as not to arise any suspicion. Even 'chocolate doping' is no laughing matter anymore, Shabotova was expelled for it.
With figure skating being such a key sport for Russia in the Winter Olympics and the real possibility any ISU sanctioned event might be affected by the proposed blanket ban, staying clean and pure in body and mind is of the upmost importance.
On a side note, a blanket ban might influence the Ministry of Youth and Sports financing the state sports schools for children and youths, which will have even more far reaching consequences for the future.
Poor athletes indeed ...
... and some other governing bodies and even some figure skating federations might chuckle in malicious glee.
With figure skating being such a key sport for Russia in the Winter Olympics and the real possibility any ISU sanctioned event might be affected by the proposed blanket ban, staying clean and pure in body and mind is of the upmost importance.
On a side note, a blanket ban might influence the Ministry of Youth and Sports financing the state sports schools for children and youths, which will have even more far reaching consequences for the future.
Poor athletes indeed ...
... and some other governing bodies and even some figure skating federations might chuckle in malicious glee.
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TASS resume here: https://tass.ru/sport/7197517
First reactions as expected:
“In my memory, there were no tougher sanctions against any country, I don’t know why they were so tough on Russia. They seemed to understand that Russia’s answers might not be fully satisfied. Recommendations for the WADA Executive Committee - desire to infringe on the rights of our country. Any subsequent decision by WADA will need to be challenged in the courts, " Svishchev said.
“If officials or leaders of the federations do not go to competitions, nothing will happen to them. However, if an athlete is removed from competition, (...) forbidden to hold competitions in our country and compete under the flag of Russia, this is a serious punishment. Moreover, it is unreasonable.”
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From: https://tass.ru/sport/7198091
First reactions as expected:
“In my memory, there were no tougher sanctions against any country, I don’t know why they were so tough on Russia. They seemed to understand that Russia’s answers might not be fully satisfied. Recommendations for the WADA Executive Committee - desire to infringe on the rights of our country. Any subsequent decision by WADA will need to be challenged in the courts, " Svishchev said.
“If officials or leaders of the federations do not go to competitions, nothing will happen to them. However, if an athlete is removed from competition, (...) forbidden to hold competitions in our country and compete under the flag of Russia, this is a serious punishment. Moreover, it is unreasonable.”
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From: https://tass.ru/sport/7198091
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Well it only seems fitting that the other figure skating federations give the same energy as the 2014 Olympics Sochi audience.
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Probably just the same, they keep their Russian nationality.
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Well, the previous "punishment" obviously didn't work. What makes WADA think the same type of ban will result in anything different?
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I would be furious if completely innocent athletes were punished for other's deceit.
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Might just be time for a good old-fashioned all-sports boycott in solidarity with all those athletes around the world whose honest practice was delegitimised, whose results were impacted, whose livelihoods were compromised and whose opportunities were constrained by persons determined to bring their country, their institutions and their sports into disrepute over...a medal tally.
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It's a tough situation. You never want to punish the individual athletes if they've done nothing wrong, especially figure skaters who have a very small window of time that they can perform at their peak ability level. However, no sanctions in the past have worked to stop this type of behavior.
I'm not sure how penalties could work in other sports. If it needed to be applied to skaters, maybe they could enforce a partial-season ban that would prevent skaters from participating in the Senior B and GP season. That would be a real punishment but still allow athletes to participate in legacy-defining events like Euros, Worlds, and the Olympics.
I'm not sure how penalties could work in other sports. If it needed to be applied to skaters, maybe they could enforce a partial-season ban that would prevent skaters from participating in the Senior B and GP season. That would be a real punishment but still allow athletes to participate in legacy-defining events like Euros, Worlds, and the Olympics.
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They want to ban EVERY Russian athlete from EVERY sporting event for FOUR years? I know there has to be a punishment, but dang. How would Russian sports come back from that.
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The few has ruined it for all. It is unfortunate but they have tried with Russia and it looks like it hasnt work. And Russia has been play very very dirty.
Fortunately the CAS cases, that the Russian athletes won, made clear this nonsense is not possible.
I disagree with the proposed penalty.
This will punish athletes that are not at a fault alongside those that are, and that will only make Russian government stronger among its people because they will immediately use that to prove that the rest of the world hate Russia, they blame russians for things that shouldn't be blamed, spreading hatred towards the West, etc. Which is already what they are saying there in case you don't know.
Are we cold war again?
Yes i believe there was (is?) state doping and the main responsibles should pay for that (like Vitaly Mutko for instance), not the athletes, at least let them compete independently.
This will punish athletes that are not at a fault alongside those that are, and that will only make Russian government stronger among its people because they will immediately use that to prove that the rest of the world hate Russia, they blame russians for things that shouldn't be blamed, spreading hatred towards the West, etc. Which is already what they are saying there in case you don't know.
Are we cold war again?
Yes i believe there was (is?) state doping and the main responsibles should pay for that (like Vitaly Mutko for instance), not the athletes, at least let them compete independently.
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And how do you propose to let these "independent athletes" compete and who is going to administer and pay for the drug testing?
Righteous indignation may feel good, but it doesn't pay for ensuring that Olympic sports and athletes are clean. Not when you put a fox in charge of the hen house.
No... ban them from performing under a Russian flag and banning Russia from hosting events.
The ISU will fight it because they want the money... Russia is one of their few hot markets for figure skating... look at how they have cowed to China after the Chinese threw a hissy fit. I forgot what that initial issue was all about(may have started in speed skating), but notice after the Chinese paid the danegeld via the Shanghai Trophy that Taiwan was told they couldn't host an event. Pretty scummy thing to do and it was all over money.
I was extremely positive last time that Rostelecom Cup wouldn't be moved when others were saying that would happen... but I'm less sure this time though I lean slightly towards it not moving from Russia.
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Have any Russian figure skaters been proven to be involved in doping? Can they prove these database deletions and such are from AFTER Pyeongchang? If not, they should back off, at least back off figure skating.
...Zhenya, ready your speech-writing skills again.
...Zhenya, ready your speech-writing skills again.
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