My hope would be, and I like this idea, that it would look like Jason Brown. I think a skater should be able to win on their strength whether it be rotations or artistic.
As long as the top single skaters can score 20% higher in TES than the maximum score for PCS, every program is a "technical program".
Elucidus said:It would look like ice dance.
Oh no, not at all. It would be like the short program. The "balanced program" concept limits the number of jumps while providing opportunities to score tech points in other ways.
Right now the short program has more non-jump scoring elements than jumping passes (4 to 3), while the opposite is true in the Free Skate (5 non-jumping elements, 7 jumping passes).
It wouldn't take much tweaking of the rules (make the two programs of equal length) to achieve the ISU's goals. The big quadsters would still have the advantage over the "artists" with less firepower, and fans of all stripes would have something to cheer.
Oh no, not at all. It would be like the short program. The "balanced program" concept limits the number of jumps while providing opportunities to score tech points in other ways.
Right now the short program has more non-jump scoring elements than jumping passes (4 to 3), while the opposite is true in the Free Skate (5 non-jumping elements, 7 jumping passes).
It wouldn't take much tweaking of the rules (make the two programs of equal length) to achieve the ISU's goals. The big quadsters would still have the advantage over the "artists" with less firepower, and fans of all stripes would have something to cheer.
As long as the top single skaters can score 20% higher in TES than the maximum score for PCS, every program is a "technical program".
Oh no, not at all. It would be like the short program.
Most great SPs get very warm applause, but not standing ovations from what I can tell.
Carolina Kostner's SP at 2018 Worlds definitely got a standing ovation. (I participated.)
Admittedly, it was in Italy.
I'm sure there are other examples.
Yagudin's Winter in 2002 OlympicsCarolina Kostner's SP at 2018 Worlds definitely got a standing ovation. (I participated.)
Admittedly, it was in Italy.
I'm sure there are other examples.
Carolina Kostner's SP at 2018 Worlds definitely got a standing ovation. (I participated.)
I'm sure there are other examples.
Yagudin's Winter in 2002 Olympics
Yeah. I think that program also got the best ever marks in components (taking into account both ladies and man, and both SP and FPs).
In SP, yes. In FP, Evgenia Medvedeva’s crazy 78 from 2017 WTT still beats it, as it would translate to a 39.
I didn't take in considerations all the competions existing in the world. Just major ones - Olympics & Worlds & even Europeans/4CC (& probably Grand prix). I mean, many of the skaters got their best scores at WTT, so i don't find it very demonstrative when we are talking about records. So, i was talking about Olympics and Worlds scores, where i found the scoring as the most accurate.
OK, but my point is that they would be much rarer, and I think it would be a loss if you didn't get them, a program might 'just be getting going', then suddenly it's over, which is what I often seem to find with SPs, and you lose that 'moment' that you often get with a full 4 minute free skate.
Well, if both programs end up being 3 1/2 minutes, which I seem to remember seeing proposed, then they would both be equally likely to earn standing Os.
Why have mere "something" when they are having so much more now?
Because for a good chunk of its fans, it's figure skating, NOT figure jumping.
And isn't a complete package "so much more" than a jumpfest?
TES is not only about 'technical'. Every element is evaluated in percieved quality, connection with the program (transitions in and out) and connection with the music (element matches the music). Other 'artistic' criterias as originality/creativity/variety are also part of some GOE bullets and as that part of TES too. And choreo seqs are more 'artistic' elements in its core. What is purely 'tehnical' in TES is base value of the element. As some 'technical' criterias are integral part of PCS too.
Well, if both programs end up being 3 1/2 minutes, which I seem to remember seeing proposed, then they would both be equally likely to earn standing Os.