2018 Four Continents Ladies FS

[xeyra]

I feel that now Kaori will definitely be doing the FS in the Team Event, if Japan qualifies.

 

[MaiKatze]

Why does the bronze medal look like silver? :think:

 

[randomfan]

What is wrong with the TP??? Are they drunk... Dabin clear outside edge 3Lz got ! and Mai 3F! while Kaori actual flutz didnt even get a ! I know she's japan #2 ladies and wil go to Olympic but.... Her pcs too is too high, while Satoko too low

I agree. I was surprised to see Kaori not get called for the lutz, and even more surprised that Dabin was suddenly called out of nowhere. As for Mai, I had a feeling this was going to happen again after seeing how she already had a couple of bogus !s earlier this season...

 

[NoNameFace]

Haha, how convinient for the photos they are all japanese. No awkward fifth wheel moments.

7 posts to !!!

 

[EdgeCall]

How many serious OBM contenders are there now? And that's with a Japanese spot missing and assuming Zhenia and Alina skate their best. If they bomb or are banned it only gets worse.

 

[sakurano]

The 3T in her 3Lz3T looked clearly UR even in real time, we'll see the protocols soon


ETA: and there they are...

Yeah Satoko's 3T was < as was her second 3Lz

Mai got UR call on her second 3Lz as well plus a ! on her flip

No UR/edge calls for Kaori

yes that's what it seemed to me and she fell that inflation to hurt him more than I thought.
This panel was strict with some and indulgent with others it's a pity and these PSC finally good it was still a good champion before the Olympics

 

[NoNameFace]

I feel that now Kaori will definitely be doing the FS in the Team Event, if Japan qualifies.

sorry for OT, but top 5 teams after SP/SD qualifies for FS/FD, yes? So it will be mainly between Italy, France and Japan?

 

[MaiKatze]

Kobayashi-san in super rotation. :hap93:

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Congrats to the medalists!

Happy for Chartrand doing much better too here even with the URs. It's a pity she couldn't do this at Nats.

Also, where are all the classy comments saying Kazakhstan should be giving up their spots for Japan (like how people said for the Canadians)? :sarcasm:

 

[skatenewbie]

no matter whether Kaori's flutz was called or not, she would be first, Mai second and Satoko third and Dabin fourth. The crucial thing was Satoko's called UR, which could have resulted in an unfair Satoko first, Kaori second. But this time, yes, the tech panel did their job and thus the result was fair.

if they did call Kaori 3Lz e Mai would take gold. Kaori 3Lz got 7.9 point with a e marks she woud get only 2-3 point (4.62 BV with -2/3 GOE) her score would drop more than 4 point and difference between Mai and Kaori is less than 4 point so... Ignoring Kaori flutz is taking away Mai gold... So there's that the placement would change.

 

[Kara]

Even if some things upset me, it's finally an event I'm overall quite happy with. I haven't felt this way since Cup of China and incidentally it was a Japanese lady showdown there too. Happy to see Dabin back on track with my fave free program of hers with that absolutely gorgeous dress and look.

 

[xeyra]

Overall impressions on the podium: Satoko's PCS were a joke, even with a fall. Kaori did deserve at least a ! in her 3Lz if not an outright e and I don't know why not even when clean Mai can't get the judges to give her better PCS but I think her trajectory with the SP did curtail her momentum from last season and it showed. I'm happy with the podium but I'd also be happy if Mai had won again because I think after her season, she deserved it. And may Satoko and Kaori be at their best for the Olympics, where Satoko will definitely be robbed in PCS anyway, in comparison.

 

[randomfan]

Crying over Soyoun’s protocol, checked the video to see if even her stellar 2A-3T deserved that UR, and sadly it was UR after all...they could’ve at least done her a favour by not underscoring her PCS

 

[aname]

Also, it seems that Alaine got full marks for her spins, so I'm not sure what people were discussing before about a repeated spin type (? I'm not a skater). The under-rotations are what killed her.

Her flying change sit spin got called as flying change combo spin in the tech box (see here https://youtu.be/lMXFoYHMj_c?t=3m53s) and she had earlier on gotten a spin invalidated because she did too many combo spins in her FS. That's what made some of us be like "oh no it happened again?!"

 

[Kutien]

1	Kaori SAKAMOTO	JPN	214.21	2	1	video
2	Mai MIHARA	JPN	210.57	3	2	video
3	Satoko MIYAHARA	JPN	207.02	1	3	video
4	Dabin CHOI	KOR	190.23	5	4	video
5	Mariah BELL	USA	185.84	4	5	video
6	Hanul KIM	KOR	173.10	6	8	video
7	Starr ANDREWS	USA	172.65	7	7	video
8	Alaine CHARTRAND	CAN	172.41	8	6	video
9	Angela WANG	USA	161.04	9	11	video
10	Xiangning LI	CHN	160.40	10	10	video
11	Soyoun PARK	KOR	159.48	12	9	video
12	Elizabet TURSYNBAEVA	KAZ	156.19	11	13	video
13	Alicia PINEAULT	CAN	152.81	14	12	video
14	Brooklee HAN	AUS	150.65	13	14	video
15	Michelle LONG	CAN	147.50	17	15	video
16	Kailani CRAINE	AUS	141.04	16	16	video
17	Ziquan ZHAO	CHN	139.01	18	17	video
18	Amy LIN	TPE	137.40	15	18	video
19	Chloe ING	SGP	129.70	19	20	video
20	Aiza MAMBEKOVA	KAZ	121.00	20	19	video
21	Joanna SO	HKG	107.69	21	21	video
22	Natalie SANGKAGALO	THA	93.61	22	22	video
23	Thita LAMSAM	THA	79.33	23	23	video

Kaori SAKAMOTO interview
4CC 2018 Ladies Victory Ceremony

 

[xeyra]

sorry for OT, but top 5 teams after SP/SD qualifies for FS/FD, yes? So it will be mainly between Italy, France and Japan?

Yes, but there are skaters from other teams that can run interference and be spoilers, especially with the Japanese pairs being their weakest link.

 

[NoNameFace]

Overall impressions on the podium: Satoko's PCS were a joke, even with a fall. Kaori did deserve at least a ! in her 3Lz if not an outright e and I don't know why not even when clean Mai can't get the judges to give her better PCS but I think her trajectory with the SP did curtail her momentum from last season and it showed. I'm happy with the podium burt I'd also be happy if Mai had won again because I think after her season, she deserved it. And may Satoko and Kaori be at their best for the Olympics, where Satoko will definitely be robbed in PCS anyway, in comparison.

those thing we're looking forward to...

 

[NoNameFace]

Yes, but there are skaters from other teams that can run interference and be spoilers, especially with the Japanese pairs being their weakest link.

thank You for confirmation, and it's such a shame about Japan Pair's level in comparison to the rest of disciplines...well, we will see how it will unfold not in a long time

 

[randomfan]

those thing we're looking forward to...

Yeah, when results start being predictable, you can tell there’s something wrong with the numbers of this sport

 

[Ares]

What is wrong with the TP??? Are they drunk... Dabin clear outside edge 3Lz got ! and Mai 3F! while Kaori actual flutz didnt even get a ! I know she's japan #2 ladies and wil go to Olympic but.... Her pcs too is too high, while Satoko too low

It kinda changes the perspective a bit. Strange calls, small differences in points = very debatable placements.