2016-17 Russian Qualifiers and other events

[atsumiri]

Is there any rules about twist? Their twist is wrong. Twist or twine-lutz has to be horizontal. Not vertical. The same with Ustimkina/Volodin.

no. it's not wrong. They can do this twist.
A twist may be performed in either vertical or lateral position. Although vertical was traditionally preferred by the judges, lateral ones have become more common since the 1990s. The pair's choice does not affect the score. A lateral twist involves the man slightly tipping the lady to twist almost parallel to the ground. - wiki
http://static.isu.org/media/1002/tphb-pair-skating-2016-2017.pdf - rules.

 

[RemyRose]

Is there any rules about twist? Their twist is wrong. Twist or twine-lutz has to be horizontal. Not vertical. The same with Ustimkina/Volodin.

Their twist isn't wrong, that's old school That's how I remember the twist from way back in the day before they started going vertical. I wanna say the Chinese brought that on but can't be 100% positive.
Look at Berezhnaya/Sikharulidze twist on YouTube. Old school

 

[puremagic]

Their twist isn't wrong, that's old school That's how I remember the twist from way back in the day before they started going vertical. I wanna say the Chinese brought that on but can't be 100% positive.
Look at Berezhnaya/Sikharulidze twist on YouTube. Old school

I mean, in nowadays, it looks like cheating. When other pairs do more difficult with horizontal position, they do vertical and it has to be easy in compare.

 

[RemyRose]

I mean, in nowadays, it looks like cheating. When other pairs do more difficult with horizontal position, they do vertical and it has to be easy in compare.

Who's to say it's easier than going horizontal especially if you personally never tried it? If so, why wouldn't other top teams who struggle with a horizontal twist switch to vertical (thinking about Stolbova/Klimov plus a couple of others)? Looks hard to me especially if trying to pull off a quad twist And its most certainly not cheating. Like I said, that's an old school twist.

 

[puremagic]

If so, why wouldn't other top teams who struggle with a horizontal twist switch to vertical (thinking about Stolbova/Klimov plus a couple of others)?

Yeah, it's a good point

 

[vorravorra]

I mean, in nowadays, it looks like cheating. When other pairs do more difficult with horizontal position, they do vertical and it has to be easy in compare.

That brings up the question of why everyone doesn't do it this way if it's easier. They like complicating their lives for no reason? Or is it scored higher?

 

[The Finn]

Russian Cup Final

Pairs FS

1. Kristina Astakhova / Alexei Rogonov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmpFJ9iOv24

2. Alisa Efimova / Alexander Korovin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZU1t8wOaHo

3. Anastasia Poluianova / Maksim Selkin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPhVhmeVvVA

4. Maria Chuzhanova / Denis Mintsev
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9rUyodowEM

5. Bogdana Lukashevich / Alexander Stepanov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jlGm3IdFWQ

6. Anastasia Yugay / Maxim Miroshkin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaRN6gVC9BM

7. Valentina Chernyshova / Mikhail Akulov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ6wDwbFaP0

 

[The Finn]

Podium pics.

Senior Pairs
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQin14CDtc3/

Junior Pairs
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQinKA8DScp/

 

[AlexRus]

Now the most interesting started - Junior Ladies. Just now - SP.
Live results http://www.fsrussia.ru/results/1617/cor1617/SEG009.HTM
Videos (will be) https://www.youtube.com/user/TheFSRussia/videos

Trusova - 65.14 = TES 37.26 + PCS 27.88
Gubanova - clean SP, 68.03 = TES 37.91 + PCS 30.12

 

[Sugarpova]

Russian Cup Final

Junior Pairs FS

1. Daria Kvartalova / Alexei Sviatchenko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtVwhntLiUY

2. Ekaterina Borisova / Dmitry Sopot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E4_9bGsxcs

3. Nika Osipova / Alexander Gallyamov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5x87WngHzA

4. Daria Pavlyuchenko / Denis Khodykin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLn_rNd7kmc

5. Polina Kostyukovich / Dmitry Yalin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqujdKzj9nI

6. Appollinariya Panfilova / Dmitry Rylov
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX7FptimJ5I

WD Albina Sokur / Roman Pleshkov

Yeeeeeeeeeee congrats KS:hap93:

 

[vorravorra]

Junior Ladies SP:

1. Gubanova 68.03
2. Vasilieva 66.83
3. Tarakanova 66.08
4. Gulyakova 65.81
5. Kurakova 65.74
6. Trusova 65.14
7. Samodurova 61.00
8. Shcherbakova 59.55
9. Lozko 58.96
10. Tarusina 54.43
11. Nugumanova 51.99
12. Talalaikina 50.96

 

[atsumiri]

I know bitching about scores is pointless... but rrrrrrrrrr :hpull::hpull:
some of this scores just make no sense.

 

[vorravorra]

Protocol:

http://www.fsrussia.ru/results/1617/cor1617/eKMC_K_Scores.pdf

 

[venx]

I'm so sad for Shcherbakova. Her chances for next year's JGP look slim now. :scowl:

 

[MsLiinaLii]

I'm so sad for Shcherbakova. Her chances for next year's JGP look slim now. :scowl:

No, they don't. She still has some competitions to prove herself + Free Skate has not happened yet + Test Skates.
Zagitova was not particularly great last season, yet this season she is the leading junior lady in the world. While last season her results were: Russian Cup stages - 7th and 3rd, Junior Nationals - 9th, Russian Cup Final - 4th, Moscow Open - 12th. But... she was great at Test Skates and as a result was given JGP event, which she won.
Gubanova, by the way, was not consistent during the main competitions: Junior Nationals - 12th, Russian Cup Final - 6th

Anna's results this season have been great, she actually won both of her Russian Cup events with scores of 186 and 195. The only reason she has not skated at Nationals was her injury, and her only mistake in this SP was that freak fall on the spin.
I am 99% sure that if she is in good shape after off season, she will certainly be assigned at least one JGP spot, the second one (same for all the girls) will depend on the results of 1st JGP.

 

[venx]

No, they don't. She still has some competitions to prove herself + Free Skate has not happened yet + Test Skates.
Zagitova was not particularly great last season, yet this season she is the leading junior lady in the world. While last season her results were: Russian Cup stages - 7th and 3rd, Junior Nationals - 9th, Russian Cup Final - 4th, Moscow Open - 12th. But... she was great at Test Skates and as a result was given JGP event, which she won.
Gubanova, by the way, was not consistent during the main competitions: Junior Nationals - 12th, Russian Cup Final - 6th

Anna's results this season have been great, she actually won both of her Russian Cup events with scores of 186 and 195. The only reason she has not skated at Nationals was her injury, and her only mistake in this SP was that freak fall on the spin.
I am 99% sure that if she is in good shape after off season, she will certainly be assigned at least one JGP spot, the second one (same for all the girls) will depend on the results of 1st JGP.

Hope they're going to invite her to test skates, because I believe this girl has big potential.
She's gawky, small and childlike for now, but you can recognize some very nice musicality, flexibility and charisma already. I also got a hunch, that when time puts some muscles on this bean, she will be jumping much higher. She's just that kind of kid, that needs more time than others. I wish they can afford giving it to her.

 

[Sugarpova]

ugh Liza 11th:disapp::sad21:

 

[lavoix]

I love Lozko's spins so much, but it makes me emotionally unstable at how many mistakes she does.

She's got everything to be amazing and shouldn't waste it!

 

[The Finn]

Sharov has uploaded new training videos.

Anna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs0dTQ0GPdY

Nastia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjewZ5Ti8TM

Sasha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5cofRwbiPY

Liza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY4iTS3Agb4

Tarakanova
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tt0INFjGOs

Vasilieva
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnaDuKzqEhM

 

[The Finn]

Russian Cup Final

Junior Ladies

1. Anastasiia Gubanova
SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKdl9ogZQdQ
FS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQIiLmCwdjk

2. Viktoria Vasilieva
SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYnMOu2FWWc
FS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxEoYP42ajE

3. Alexandra Trusova
SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLWiLJZD9_U
FS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ2Nt-HnHYg

4. Anastasia Tarakanova
SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytaE1g2Sxj0
FS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd9c_UHAJpU

5. Ekaterina Kurakova
SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfqaSAuyLGU
FS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yioidMBJIEE

6. Anastasia Gulyakova
SP No video
FS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMpsTTsAdu4

7. Sofia Samodurova
SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVHhhq8qCr8
FS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BoNXi93lM8

8. Anna Shcherbakova
SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOPLG-TGzHI
FS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y75IeOMAg8

9. Alisa Lozko
SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPCwPPjwmpk
FS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNzPVwD2S3M

10. Elizaveta Nugumanova
SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaX7KdCNkrE
FS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB5uGd5c4Eg

11. Maria Talalaykina
SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE4qKqr_cnE
FS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxZkmOkwSD0

12. Anna Tarusina
SP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2mBWVhttPY
FS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HkQkGKnqh0