Welcome nikiya! We need more ballet teachers on board.
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Thank you, and I'm glad to be closely following skating again!
Welcome nikiya! We need more ballet teachers on board.
Post long. Post often.
* for Mathman.
We have similar tastes in skating artistry. Carolina, although not a favorite on this Board, is definitely worthy of one of the best lyrical skaters of today. That Debussy got me too.I had tears in my eyes watching Carolina's LP. It's beautiful program to begin with, but she skated with such joy and soul this time that made it so breathtaking to watch. Rochette's Olympic SP aside, I don't think a single ladies performance has moved me as much as this one did in the past decade. There was so much beauty, musicality and freedom in that performance. And on top of all that, her flow was just stunning. Everything just clicked. I'm sure I'll be watching this performance over and over and over in years to come.
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Exactly, as a ballet teacher I'd have to say this is correct. Balletic has more to do with fluidity of movement and lines than being stereotypical long-limbed like say, Yuna or Caro. I must say however as someone who's followed (maybe not kept up as much as I'd like) skating since early 90s, I'd rate Mao just under Lucinda Ruh and the more recent Shizuka Arakawa (she seems to get better as pro), they're all balletic skaters with line, extension, turnout, and fluidity. Some people mistakenly think Sasha is balletic, but this is wrong IMHO. Sasha hits some extreme, rhythmic gymnast-like poses, but compare her style to Lucinda's and there we see the difference.
^ What do you think of Patrick Chan, from the point of view of posture, carriage, and fluidity of movement?
I actually got to see his SP Take Five last year in person, I think he's one of the most fluid men's skaters I've seen. Very natural upper and lower body coordination, this is especially apparent during his footwork sequences, as his upper body is relaxed and isn't stiff like for example, Plushenko (from what I've seen on videos) when he does his footwork sequences. From a dancer's perspective, I can tell that Patrick has a strong yet flexible middle body (lower back, hips), which also allows for his flow and straight lower back position after jump landings. There are similarities between skating and ballet when it comes to male jumps positions in the air and landing postures. Because Patrick has a loose middle body, I feel like he can be pushed to do more choreographically like using more sweeping and expressive movements, as he already skates very naturally in multiple directions.
I think Patrick has wonderful upper body carriage, the only thing I've noticed is that he can still improve on arm movements and loosening up his neck/ shoulders more in order to appear less robotic or strained and more flowing and expressive. Perfect example is Lambiel in this area, Takahashi is good too.
Yes, I've definitely noticed that we have shared quite a few favourites for the past several years. It's really great to see someone having similar tastes with meWe have similar tastes in skating artistry. Carolina, although not a favorite on this Board, is definitely worthy of one of the best lyrical skaters of today. That Debussy got me too.
:thumbsup:Perfect example is Lambiel in this area
Welcome nikiya !
Well put ! As a former dance teacher and fan of skating for over 30 yrs , I echo so much of what you've said.
I/K's DQ was pretty much a miss for me too . Come to the dance thread...we'll discuss.
I think mileage is also a factor in addition to age. Miki just seems to have been around longer than others.
I actually got to see his SP Take Five last year in person, I think he's one of the most fluid men's skaters I've seen. Very natural upper and lower body coordination, this is especially apparent during his footwork sequences, as his upper body is relaxed and isn't stiff like for example, Plushenko (from what I've seen on videos) when he does his footwork sequences. From a dancer's perspective, I can tell that Patrick has a strong yet flexible middle body (lower back, hips), which also allows for his flow and straight lower back position after jump landings. There are similarities between skating and ballet when it comes to male jumps positions in the air and landing postures. Because Patrick has a loose middle body, I feel like he can be pushed to do more choreographically like using more sweeping and expressive movements, as he already skates very naturally in multiple directions.
I think Patrick has wonderful upper body carriage, the only thing I've noticed is that he can still improve on arm movements and loosening up his neck/ shoulders more in order to appear less robotic or strained and more flowing and expressive. Perfect example is Lambiel in this area, Takahashi is good too.