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Happy for Adelina
I guess im on the minority but Caro's program seems empty. On the other hand Julia's was rushed. So much going on in that routine.
I agree. The over the top faux cheesiness is just too much. I was LMAO and at the same time held my mouse button over the [X] wanting to close the window - badly. It is so bad, that I just can't stop watching it...
And too much make-up on her, IMO...
Too much exaggerated posing in that program, as well...
First I do not support the current trend, and the subjective discrimination is not my view, but the term is just a reflection on what the judges might have said to defend their practices today. Bodily handicap or its related deficiency often characterized by junior skating, has to do with both aesthetic appeal as well as technical limitation. First of all, if you have less than ideal or advantageous ratio between your height and weight with respect to your own body shape, that critically affects your skating and how it appeals to the audience. Say Rachel Flatt - I don't intend to depreciate Rachel; on the contrary I adore her - due to her body shape her skating often fail to project ideal curvature in her move; her entire body often swings as if she is ready to fall aside or her upper body lacks of high degree of freedom; her arms movement does not show smooth transitions, struggling in incorporating into what she appeared to portray and reenact in her performance. In that sense, she was handicapped. Juniors often cannot absorb the impact of landing adequately into their body which unsettles dynamics of their motion on ice immediately after their landing. that's why you see often their free leg through the roof. That those jumps ought not to be subject to GOE, or considered as excellence nor relevant to juxtapose with senior level skating is my view. Its mimetic, let us say in Platonic sense- flaws constitutes egregious incompatibility to justify its inclusion to senior arena. That's why you cannot help feel that their skating inherently bear disruptiveness in motion like a stringed puppet. That's why their performance looks a series of fractured movements, which is of course not their fault. that's natural and inborn defects in younger body. Figure skating is a sport in constant motion on which skaters are required to make aesthetic buildup with uninhibited set of body language. This linearity embedded in the sport entails physiological compatibility and its merit. Especially in terms of sport science, it is critical for a skater to retain optimal ratio of your body to command your skating. Would you say Midori Ito capable of evoking aesthetic beauty in her best skating like the way Peggy flaming did? Obvious isn't it? If you observe today's skaters, some often lean forward after landing or experience a violent swing due to what was begotten from physiological imbalance. what I meant by the previous post was that judges seem less discerning on this kind of defects, which is good news for those who are subject to these flaws, that is, younger skaters whose skating remains junior.
This may blow your mind but I actually like her wonky double axel. Boom. Mostly due to how she transitions out of it in the SP. I'm actually surprised there isn't a thread on her Axel.
I remember during a competition last year one of the two British commentators said a double axel Julia way can get a skater lots of momentum for the jump after it. And he didn't think it was a bad technique at all (the other commentator did think so). Is it possible that her coach taught her that way to get the 3T after it more secure?
The 2a-3t-2t is in her FS. In the SP it's a 3(f)Lz-3t. I think she does a 2a early in the SP to allow herself the 3f later and stay within the program restrictions and recieve bonus for the 3f. I'm not very informed on the technical regulations and someone else will probably correct me. I will agree with the thinking that her carrying speed out does make a great deal of sense and being that the 3t after her axel is arguably her best jump in her FS, this speed is crucial. Why has no one nicknamed her Flutzniskaia. I love her the most but that's an appropriate name for her haters to use.
No correction necessary! You get a 10% bonus for any jump you do after the halfway mark (1:25 for the SP; 2:00 for the ladies' FS). So she gets more points by having it this way than switching the placements from 2A and 3F. But if you put 2 jumps in the second half, then you get the bonus for both.I think she does a 2a early in the SP to allow herself the 3f later and stay within the program restrictions and recieve bonus for the 3f. I'm not very informed on the technical regulations and someone else will probably correct me.
Since when is it the job of those who love a skater the most to give that skater's haters good ideas?Why has no one nicknamed her Flutzniskaia. I love her the most but that's an appropriate name for her haters to use.
Jenna really is the Cher of figure skating, isn't she?
I'm not a huge fan of Carolina's new SP. Actually I just don't like the music But Caro was soooo elegant and gorgeous. Love her hair and the BACK SPIRAL! I think it can be her signature (not the risky salchaw on the last minute)
Top 3(Yuna/Mao/Caro) have same sorts of SPs for this Olympic, it will be interesting to compare them back to back at the Games.
Are you allowed to skate to Ave Maria at the Olympics?
Carolina is far and above the most artistic skater out there today. I don't understand Yu-na's PCS when Carolina's transitions, seamless choreography, speed, edge work as shown here outclassed her and everyone else my miles. That was a truly olympic program, I would love to see this get the scores it deserves in Sochi. I wasn't always Carolina's fan, but her maturity and understanding of the music as well as her huge jumps and speed and ability to actually HOLD OUT the positions makes me really appreciate skating.
I will never view the sport thru those eyes. I will always like the chronic flutzing, junior skating, boneless kid from Russia. Somehow despite all of these she HAS established herself amongst the top 5 in the world. Blame the judges and protocols all you want. I personally think they have been fairly harsh on Julia with the exception being Russia GP. The fact is her and all of her fellow Russian babies are here to stay. They will be rewarded well when they skate well and a lot of us think a good skate is a good skate. Regardless of your body type and age.
This may blow your mind but I actually like her wonky double axel. Boom. Mostly due to how she transitions out of it in the SP. I'm actually surprised there isn't a thread on her Axel.
Back to the topic: I am wondering If Carolina can overcome these two IF all three skate clean in the FS. I'm starting to think all 3 clean is very likely. They all seem on their game. Never thought I'd feel this confident in Adelina but I'm betting she brings it. That was so sad at the GPF FS. She may have grown from it and vowed never again. She may indeed be very fortunate that Julia was at Nationals and Euros to keep her on her toes in prep for Olympics
My criticism does not mean that I don't like Julia or any skater with less than perfect quality. Nor do I blame judges; simply I diagnose. By the way, I also like her double axel. Julia's double axel is a very sign of her ingenuity. That's my favorite in her skating aside from her musicality.
I remember during a competition last year one of the two British commentators said a double axel Julia way can get a skater lots of momentum for the jump after it. And he didn't think it was a bad technique at all (the other commentator did think so). Is it possible that her coach taught her that way to get the 3T after it more secure?