Nah I think the 2 point difference to Wakaba and 4 points difference to Kostner is just right. But overall PCS here is just high.
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Nah I think the 2 point difference to Wakaba and 4 points difference to Kostner is just right. But overall PCS here is just high.
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Seems harsh, given her 3lz/3loopMy own scores from what I viewed today;
WH 69 given the UR 3T
CK 67 as no 3/3
AZ 65 2a fall, cautiously skated and behind her music
The tech panel must have had wine with dinner last evening.
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and despite of it being used by Ashley, Virtue/Moir is a very memorable way on ice, I still picture Lacey and Danny from US SYTYCD season 3 dancing that samba
Just want to be clear that Virtue/Moir used Hip Hip Chin Chin before Ashley Wagner did.
And in reference to her own version of HHCC, Ashley said that she wanted (I'm paraphrasing) to channel Tessa or to find her inner Tessa or something like that.
(Sorry, have not read the whole thread. And have not seen anything from Lombardia. Just sometimes have seen misimpressions :roll5: on GS in the past that Ashley used the music before V/M did.)
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You keep calling her Alya but everyone in her team and friends call her Alina... I don't think she likes this short name... (my apologies if I'm wrong)
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It might. Sonia Bianchetti said long ago that this scoring system would make it impossible to the judges to pay attention to so many artistic elements that they're supposed to be evaluating independently on the day. At least when they have to post their scores so quickly, plus do all the GOE evaluating, etc. So it could be why they're relying on reputation and whatever they're expecting from that particular performer.
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apologies if the order I used offended you! That was definitely not an intention, I am fully aware that Tessa and Scott used 'Hip hip chin chin' first and became the referential point of that music, even for other skaters (like Ashley you mentioned), it was just accidental order I used to reference memorable HHCC programs to get to the point of SYTYCD performance to that song
Sadly, I feel she was over scored on PCS. I found her quite slow, behind the music and frequently with a vacant expression.
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Really? Alina always seems to bring fire to me when I see her
zagitova was frightened at the beginning and cautious trough her skate. debut in seniors with a lot of very good fellow skaters. better her than at GP. she is no roboter and i am sure she is never ever going to fall again on a 2A... didnt really get the "swan" feeling and i was also not sure what she was portraiing. a swan or a dancer or just a skater
higuchi i enjoyed and she enoyed herself. was very present and connecting to the audience. i think she is a lock for one of those 2 japanese olympic spots
higuchi i enjoyed and she enoyed herself. was very present and connecting to the audience. i think she is a lock for one of those 2 japanese olympic spots
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My biggest issue with Alina's skating is that it's so choppy and busy. If she held a position for more than a couple seconds maybe it would be interesting. I really wanted to see a fierce Black Swan but it's not there right now.
I think that's a fair point. But wouldn't that required a lot more judges? The average comp has 7 or 8 judges. I do think it would reduce judging time, though.
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I too was expecting a spitfire on the ice given the hype. She is a spit of a thing in terms of stature, but sadly, no fire today. Perhaps in the FS?
There are a lot of expectations for Zagitova, so it's understandable if she was highly concentrated on the elements. Plus, with the extreme backloading, the end of the program is for elements with not much time to be fiery and fierce. She is just starting out though.
Zagitova's main problem is that her skating skills are just not that good yet (and she was really quite generously judged on skating skills in this event ...).
They're trying to "hide" this shortcoming with busy programs. She's a decent skater for her age but she doesn't get the time she would need to develop her skating skills imho, because of the upcoming Olympics. Understandable and it might pay off. If it pays off we might never see what kind of skater she could become ... just think about that.
But she's going to win this event on TES in the FS, but certainly not on PCS. She's no short program skater (this season), although her SP is better than her FS. I think a frantic black swan is a decent approach to the theme. The swan is becoming insane after all.
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Well, maybe split those 7 or 9 into those focusing on TES or PC? And what about the alternates? I'm starting to think it could work.
Lost of focus ?That is: less focused here that in Sochi, because there she must impress the Russian technicians, coaches and Federation officials ?
but, I really don't think Wakaba's 3T was UR- Joined
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I think Zagitova's team should temper the ambition with her crazy 2A entrance. It did not work in Sochi. It did not work here. With a normal safe entry she would have got 4.5 instead of 1.2 for axel with another half point in pcs for the clean skate. So she would be a leader with something like 75.1 Not that I agree with the scores of the top 3. They all are 3-4 points higher vs. what I saw. My scores would be: Wakaba - 70, Caro and Alina - 68.
Very sad about Liza. Looks like she has not got her mojo back yet. She needs to impress during LP or judges won't take her seriously later on. And that's the problem if she aims at the spot in the team. Russian #3 will be highly disadvantaged. Making such mistakes as she did will mean staying very very low in the international pecking order.
Very sad about Liza. Looks like she has not got her mojo back yet. She needs to impress during LP or judges won't take her seriously later on. And that's the problem if she aims at the spot in the team. Russian #3 will be highly disadvantaged. Making such mistakes as she did will mean staying very very low in the international pecking order.
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