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Yes, AI judging is not really the answer, as any AI is only as good as the sample set it has been trained on.I'm newish on the forum but in my opinion, a fair amount of complaining comes from biased fans or fans that don't know or ignore the rules on purpose....
There was a thread about improving judging and it went very quickly towards AI judging.
I'm not saying that skating judging is perfect but, personally, I don't really see how to practically improve it (except to add a second camera for tech reviews for edges and underestimation).
The next problem I see is that judging is difficult to understand, ISU should find ways to explain the rules to the fans.
Us (or judges) talking about differences in judges scores without analyzing a video of the program and following the rules, doesn't give much information.
Adding additional review cameras is a necessary improvement, but improvements also need to be made in the review process of judges' performances and more concrete consequences have to be introduced. In most cases (including the case that started this whole thread). the judges who can be proven to have acted against the rules get away with barely more than a slap on the wrist. Even judges who have been suspended for some time can return without any issues afterward and don't seem to be under closer supervision than any other judges. That is very troubling to me.
The ISU has judging seminars and online materials that go into detail more closely and provide examples to explain the rules and guidelines better, but to what degree this content is helpful, I am not sure, as I have no extensive personal experience. It's very possible improvements have to be made here too, and certainly, all of these materials should be publicly available.
The funniest (and simultaneously saddest) experience I've heard shared by people who took part in an ISU judging seminar was that Sasha Trusova's FS at Worlds 2021 was used as an example of a program deserving 4s to 5s in transitions when she actually received in the 7s and 8s by all judges - and that with two falls. None of the judges were publicly reprimanded, or the issue even acknowledged, all of this happened behind closed doors and the same judges happily kept and keep on judging away.
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