2018 Olympic Season: Ice Dance
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Really sorry for Olivia/Adria, but I'll be positive, I'll see them in Words
How kind of their Federation to split the assignments between the two teams. :thumbsup:
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Yes, but it can be a double-edged sword though as the team going Euros and Olympics can have a higher chance to increase their next spot for Worlds as they have a momentum if they have three-straight major competitions. Or the team with a break from Euros and Olympics can be eager to prove their qualities, so do better at Worlds.
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It is better to go to Euros than Worlds for ISU ranking points. It's easier to come higher up in Euros than in Worlds, thus more points.
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True, but I suppose the team going to Olympics needs more competition prior to the event
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Olivia Smart is NOT happy.
https://twitter.com/olivia_smart/status/942583313394479104
She even said she and Adria are a true Team Spain or at least a true team with the Spanish flag:
https://twitter.com/olivia_smart/status/942511776096247808
and created the hashtag #playfair.
It looks like Zach Donohue, Brooklee Han, Christina Carreria, Matthew Blackmer, Marissa Castelli, and Jordan Dodds have all liked at least one of her tweets.
https://twitter.com/olivia_smart/status/942583313394479104
She even said she and Adria are a true Team Spain or at least a true team with the Spanish flag:
https://twitter.com/olivia_smart/status/942511776096247808
and created the hashtag #playfair.
It looks like Zach Donohue, Brooklee Han, Christina Carreria, Matthew Blackmer, Marissa Castelli, and Jordan Dodds have all liked at least one of her tweets.
Absolutely !
Well for me Scott was the “forced” one in the gpf. Also, if p/c dont skate close together, i don’t know who is...
I didn't saw her using That hashtag last year, when Spanish federation ignored their own qualification rules and send them to the World's over Sara and Kirill. Or maybe it's OK to break the rules when it's to her favor. Olivia is the last person on earth who should be complaining
Lol I'd like for her to explain to me how S/D is more of a 'true team' than H/K. Have some class, girl, damn.
Last year H/K weren't much of a team with almost every performance Sara botched a twizzle. I honestly believe the Spanish fed thought it would be best to send S/D. Now I don't know much about the scandal Olivia speaks of but appparently there was something going down at the Senor B they did as part of the qualifiers. When they lost to H/K there it looks as though they really upped their game for the Nationals. From what I saw of the SD, S/D really looked superior in every aspect, but hey I have not seen the FD so I don't know if they royally messed up there. I only find the FD of H/K marginally better than that of S/D but I thought technique wise S/D have never looked better. So its too soon to be crucifying her. What she needs to understand though is that ice dance is fraught with this some of it intentional and some just due to the natural subjectivity of the sport. What they need to do is just be a better team and just make more inspired choices. Their FD choices for me have always been a bit too bland, they're a fun and dynamic couple, they should work with that rather than against it.
I think Spanish fed needs to revise its criterias for the following years. Champs last year didn't go to worlds. This year they don't go to the Olympics. They are missing something.
2 competitions is just not enough. You have to look at how each team is scored at their other competitions too.
Of course Olivia is angry. They won nationals (by a margin), they earn a spot for Spain last year too. A judge was suspended between the SD and FD at Golden Spin and suddenly both teams don't have that much of a margin between them. They have scored a 64+ SD at Skate Canada too. If it were me, I'd be raging. And if the roles were reversed I'd expect H/K to be raging too as well, as they should.
It's highly unlikely that the fed will change its mind (especially considering what happened last year). However, it's more than legitimate to question the results if a judge was suspended in between. Let's be honest if it were some other teams, this thread would be on fire already.
Both teams deserve to go and that's very hard. I feel for them.
2 competitions is just not enough. You have to look at how each team is scored at their other competitions too.
Of course Olivia is angry. They won nationals (by a margin), they earn a spot for Spain last year too. A judge was suspended between the SD and FD at Golden Spin and suddenly both teams don't have that much of a margin between them. They have scored a 64+ SD at Skate Canada too. If it were me, I'd be raging. And if the roles were reversed I'd expect H/K to be raging too as well, as they should.
It's highly unlikely that the fed will change its mind (especially considering what happened last year). However, it's more than legitimate to question the results if a judge was suspended in between. Let's be honest if it were some other teams, this thread would be on fire already.
Both teams deserve to go and that's very hard. I feel for them.
That's a great post, thanks. Let's also not forget that they earned the Olympic spot at Worlds as a second placed team from Spain. It is weird, but I am sort of glad that the federation made the the criteria public and measurable and not "body of work" or similar.
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What other way the Fed could actually make the decision this season? S/D were the only team to go to a GP - and I think it's fair that they decided it based in competitions that both teams participated, because it's not like they have a big history competing already. Also, it's interesting to note that even with the 'scandal' with the judge, H/K only lost one segment to S/D. So, if the spanish judges, or whatever, wanted S/D to actually go to the Olympics, they could have made that margin bigger, or make them win the FD. So all this talk about unfair judging kinda falls flat to me. Both teams deserve to go, but S/D didn't manage to win a second spot either, so no one can do much about that.
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I meant they only have one spot for Euros, Worlds and Olympics, not talking about their possibility for GP assignments next season. As long as they don't increase their berth in those major events, there will be endless dramas between the two teams. Realistically speaking, skaters with consecutive competitions in high levels have sharper forms than the team with a break. Though whoever they are, Team Spain needs to increase their Euro spot first, so the Spanish federation can have another option in deciding who to be sent to Worlds/Olympics in the next Olympic cycle.
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Go HK
after being unfairly snubbed last year I thought the Fed made their statement in preferring SD
Happy that HK cold put up a fight.
Hopefully the desicion remains
after being unfairly snubbed last year I thought the Fed made their statement in preferring SD
Happy that HK cold put up a fight.
Hopefully the desicion remains
absolutely classless & bitter
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