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Michelle????
I know, right?? I mean, not to diss Tara, but Michelle was much better than her, IMO, and Michelle was easily the most dominant female skater of the late 90s and early 00s.
Michelle????
Michelle????
I thought of Mao but the fact she didnt even medal at the Olympics ruled her out for me. She would need more than 1 world title to overcome that, and she her 2014 world title is her only top 2 finish at worlds or Olympics that quad. And if we go by 4everchan's logic of post Olympic Worlds not being part of a quad, then Mao really is totally out of contention for tops of the 2015-2018 quad now as that rules out even her 2018 world title.
Michelle????
the worlds each year are not to be counted in the following season... that's not what I said... you are misunderstanding... what I said is that WORLDS right after Olympics are NOT a factor in the Olympic cycle... though they are not representative of a quad per se.
as I have explained, an Olympic CYCLE ends with the Olympics... no matter where the usual season normally ends for an athlete...
That's a super convoluted and distorted logic in my opinion. I see where you are coming from but those arguments are very shaky and subjective. Sorry to disappoint you but the OLYMPIC CYCLE that contains the OLYMPICS... ends with Worlds, or nowadays WTT.
Indeed. Where's Michelle Kwan? 5 World Titles and 2 olympic medals (no gold, true, but still 5 (!!!!) World Titles). Much as I love Irina (who also has 2 olympic medals), she has 'only' 2 World Titles (which is a great achievement in itself). And why Sasha and not Arakawa? Some of these choices are really odd in my view.
With all respect to Kim Yuna but how can she be dominant in 2011-2014 cycle if he basically missed half of it? If we establish that quad with starts World Championships in one Olympic cycle and ends with next Olympic Games for me the dominant lady is Carolina Kostner and I say it as Mao Asada stan.
Caro won medals at Worlds 11', 12' and 13'. Not to mention she was in top3 in every European Championships and every GP she participated in.
Mao was reworking her technique after Vancouver and I wouldn't say that she was dominant lady in 2011-2014.
Michelle definitely needs to be on the list for 95-98 but not 99-02. The former is the era where she was really dominant and at her peak artistically and technically. During the latter, while she may have one those two World golds, I think it's also important to note that Irina beat her in every match up they had other than those two events from 2000-2002 which is why I consider Slutskaya the most dominant that era.
While Yuna missed a large part of it, IIRC she never lost to Caro at any of the three big events they faced off at (11 & 13 Worlds, Sochi). Maybe there just wasn't a dominant skater that quad, although I'd pick Yuna if there was one, if only because it was an upset any time she didn't win so her status of being the favorite should mean something.
Who was the best skater of each quadrennial from 1977 to today.
Ladies:
1977-1980: Anette Poetzsch
1981-1984: Katarina Witt
1985-1988: Katarina Witt
1989-1992: Midori Ito
1993-1994: Kristi Yamaguchi
1995-1998: Tara Lipinski
1999-2002: Irina Slutskaya
2003-2006: Sasha Cohen
2007-2010: Yu Na Kim
2011-2014: Yu Na Kim
2015-2018: Evgenia Medvedeva
just like we won't pretend that Hanyu won his olympic medals with 2 great skates (in each program) ... also, why do you give Hanyu as the top skater of the years when Javi beat him at words after winning europeans.... ????I know nothing of the figure skating world from 06-2011 except that's Daisuke's era I'm pretty sure? I don't know anything about the men's field about that time so was Joubert really that dominant? Genuine question
Also why do we not talk about Oksana Baiul? How many championships did she win? Wasn't she super dominant as well?
if you ask me
2010/11 - Patrick Chan
2011/12 - Patrick Chan
2012/13 - Patrick Chan
2013/14 - Yuzuru Hanyu
2014/15 - Yuzuru Hanyu
2015/16 - Yuzuru Hanyu
2016/17 - Yuzuru Hanyu
2017/18 - Yuzuru Hanyu
2018/19 - Yuzuru Hanyu/Nate (this one is tough to call considering Yuzu's very dominant early season and Nate's very dominant late season)
For me, majority takes all so I'm okay with giving the 2010-14 quad to Patrick but let's not pretend he won all those world champs and gpfs without controversies
Michelle definitely needs to be on the list for 95-98 but not 99-02. The former is the era where she was really dominant and at her peak artistically and technically. During the latter, while she may have one those two World golds, I think it's also important to note that Irina beat her in every match up they had other than those two events from 2000-2002 which is why I consider Slutskaya the most dominant that era.
just like we won't pretend that Hanyu won his olympic medals with 2 great skates (in each program) ... also, why do you give Hanyu as the top skater of the years when Javi beat him at words after winning europeans.... ????