Are we seeing a change in how tightly rules are applied in lifts? There certainly were a lot of lift downgrades at CoR. When I looked at most of them several times, I could see where a question could be raised, but for some, I'm still a bit skeptical, particularly in the SD. In any case, here's a compendium of the downgraded lifts. In the next post, I'll do a quick recap of the criteria of levels for lifts for anyone that wants to have some technical data to support their opinion of the calls.
Cup of Russia
Free Dance
Weaver & Poje 3rd Element RoLi3-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XsEBzz3x-Ww#t=143
They are doing a one-armed rotational lift. To receive credit for level 3, they must have both completed 3 rotations. To fail to receive level 4, they must not have received credit for their One Hand/Arm Extra Enhancement, which in this case, Andrew is trying for the up & down motion- probably not enough of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsEBzz3x-Ww#t=
Chock & Bates 2nd half of combo lift (element 1) SlL4+RoLi3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2eDICrfERsU#t=87
The only way this call makes sense is if Evan stopped and restarted rotating, and so they lost a level on the rotational part of the combination lift. Why? Since they received a Level 4 for the Straight Line lift, they got credit for a Difficult entry. Since they got Level 3 for the rotational lift, they must have all the requirement for level 3. In a combo lift, if you have credit for a difficult entry to the first part of the lift, it applies to the second part. Consequently, they have all the requirements for SlLi4+RoLi4. The only ways the second lift can be level 3 is if they were penalized for Evan stopping and restarting rotating while Madison is in the difficult pose, or if Madison touched down. Clearly Madison didn't touch down.
Gilles & Poirier 7th element RoLi3 .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LINsgDnpXek#t=199
They are doing a One Hand/Arm Rotational Lift. Their extra enhancement is that Paul is going on one foot during the lift. He probably does not do a whole rotation on one foot, and so failed to meet the requirement.
Papadakis & Cizeron 5th element second half of combo lift SlLi4+RoLi2;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-m5upuC2i7Y#t=234
To qualify for Level 3, Gabriella must do 4 full rotations in a haircutter (with her skate near to her head) It appears she took a bit long getting into the position, and so did not do 4 full rotations in it.
7th element CuLi3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-m5upuC2i7Y#t=282
It is a change of position curved lift. To obtain credit for the change of position, Guillaume must be in the difficult position (a crouch), while Gabriella is changing position. Since they received credit for level 3, both Guillaume's crouch & Gabriella's change of position have been given credit. They either did not receive credit for a difficult entry, or had a loss of control or touchdown, for which they were penalized a level. I don't see the loss of control or Gabriella touching the ice with her hand, so I think they did not find her jump into the lift as difficult.
The lift was performed the same way at TEB last week, when they did receive credit for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TrlnJRy1mz4#t=270
None of the 3 Russian teams nor the Ukrainian team received a downgraded lifts in the Free Dance.
Short Dance
Weaver & Poje element 5 CuLi2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=N8c5Q2dwuxA#t=208
This is a case where they received credit from the caller, but the points disappeared from the score tracker after voting.
Either Andrew did not get credit for his difficult pose (spread eagle) or Kaitlyn did not get credit for her change of pose. This lift got credit in this form at Skate Canada, but I can see why it might not. Kaitlyn starts changing pose before Andrew is in the spread eagle. Now she does get two sort of distinct poses after he is in the crouched spread eagle, but it's open to misinterpretation, because the 2 poses are not "snap shot" clear. Even if there is a lot of transitioning between the 2 poses, when you get to the final pose, it must be different from the beginning pose -that is both poses cannot be just Kaitlyn sitting on Andrew's knee.\
Here's the lift at Skate Canada, for which they received credit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BtxdKP5sYOY#t=199
Chock & Bates element 5 RoLi1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-NdswcusTIg#t=187
They are doing a change of position rotational lift.
To lose credit all the way to level 1, they must have failed to get credit for the change of position. This can happen if Evan stops rotation during the change of position. From this angle, I am not seeing the hesitation in rotation. Furthermore, they got credit initially, but three points disappeared from their tech score on the tracker during review, so clearly the panel had a disagreement.
Papadakis & Cizeron element 5 SLi2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0tM-2VM_j9w#t=203
They either did not get credit for his crouched spread eagle or her change of position. While a rather wild lift, it's not clear at all what they were penalized for. Perhaps they lost credit because he shifted rather a bit during his spread eagle?
The 3 Russian teams, the Ukrainians, and Gilles and Poirier, did not incur a lift downgrade in the short dance.
Cup of Russia
Free Dance
Weaver & Poje 3rd Element RoLi3-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XsEBzz3x-Ww#t=143
They are doing a one-armed rotational lift. To receive credit for level 3, they must have both completed 3 rotations. To fail to receive level 4, they must not have received credit for their One Hand/Arm Extra Enhancement, which in this case, Andrew is trying for the up & down motion- probably not enough of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsEBzz3x-Ww#t=
and/or the lifting partner significantly changes the level of his skating legs (knees) with a continuous motion
Chock & Bates 2nd half of combo lift (element 1) SlL4+RoLi3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2eDICrfERsU#t=87
The only way this call makes sense is if Evan stopped and restarted rotating, and so they lost a level on the rotational part of the combination lift. Why? Since they received a Level 4 for the Straight Line lift, they got credit for a Difficult entry. Since they got Level 3 for the rotational lift, they must have all the requirement for level 3. In a combo lift, if you have credit for a difficult entry to the first part of the lift, it applies to the second part. Consequently, they have all the requirements for SlLi4+RoLi4. The only ways the second lift can be level 3 is if they were penalized for Evan stopping and restarting rotating while Madison is in the difficult pose, or if Madison touched down. Clearly Madison didn't touch down.
Gilles & Poirier 7th element RoLi3 .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LINsgDnpXek#t=199
They are doing a One Hand/Arm Rotational Lift. Their extra enhancement is that Paul is going on one foot during the lift. He probably does not do a whole rotation on one foot, and so failed to meet the requirement.
Papadakis & Cizeron 5th element second half of combo lift SlLi4+RoLi2;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-m5upuC2i7Y#t=234
To qualify for Level 3, Gabriella must do 4 full rotations in a haircutter (with her skate near to her head) It appears she took a bit long getting into the position, and so did not do 4 full rotations in it.
7th element CuLi3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-m5upuC2i7Y#t=282
It is a change of position curved lift. To obtain credit for the change of position, Guillaume must be in the difficult position (a crouch), while Gabriella is changing position. Since they received credit for level 3, both Guillaume's crouch & Gabriella's change of position have been given credit. They either did not receive credit for a difficult entry, or had a loss of control or touchdown, for which they were penalized a level. I don't see the loss of control or Gabriella touching the ice with her hand, so I think they did not find her jump into the lift as difficult.
The lift was performed the same way at TEB last week, when they did receive credit for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TrlnJRy1mz4#t=270
None of the 3 Russian teams nor the Ukrainian team received a downgraded lifts in the Free Dance.
Short Dance
Weaver & Poje element 5 CuLi2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=N8c5Q2dwuxA#t=208
This is a case where they received credit from the caller, but the points disappeared from the score tracker after voting.
Either Andrew did not get credit for his difficult pose (spread eagle) or Kaitlyn did not get credit for her change of pose. This lift got credit in this form at Skate Canada, but I can see why it might not. Kaitlyn starts changing pose before Andrew is in the spread eagle. Now she does get two sort of distinct poses after he is in the crouched spread eagle, but it's open to misinterpretation, because the 2 poses are not "snap shot" clear. Even if there is a lot of transitioning between the 2 poses, when you get to the final pose, it must be different from the beginning pose -that is both poses cannot be just Kaitlyn sitting on Andrew's knee.\
Here's the lift at Skate Canada, for which they received credit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BtxdKP5sYOY#t=199
Chock & Bates element 5 RoLi1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-NdswcusTIg#t=187
They are doing a change of position rotational lift.
To lose credit all the way to level 1, they must have failed to get credit for the change of position. This can happen if Evan stops rotation during the change of position. From this angle, I am not seeing the hesitation in rotation. Furthermore, they got credit initially, but three points disappeared from their tech score on the tracker during review, so clearly the panel had a disagreement.
Papadakis & Cizeron element 5 SLi2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0tM-2VM_j9w#t=203
They either did not get credit for his crouched spread eagle or her change of position. While a rather wild lift, it's not clear at all what they were penalized for. Perhaps they lost credit because he shifted rather a bit during his spread eagle?
The 3 Russian teams, the Ukrainians, and Gilles and Poirier, did not incur a lift downgrade in the short dance.
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