And thanks god most of the current girls dont do it. Those long glides are horrible and boring.
If you don't have the skill and the correct technique, this is what you say.
And thanks god most of the current girls dont do it. Those long glides are horrible and boring.
It is not about looking easy. When I watch FS, i expect to see stuff. Not just jumps, but you know, things. Long setups basically mean that the skater spends 1/5th or so of their program skating through the rink doing absolutely nothing. It hurts interpretation. It hurts choreo. It hurts performance. It hurts transitions.
Also, you guys say it like one cannot have a perfect Lutz without having a long setup, which is absolutely not true (as there are several ladies who do perfect Lutzes just fine without all that).
I think both can be choreographically beautiful- neither is "horrible". The long set up is difficult as it requires the mastery to hold the clean outside edge- and it can be really powerful if used to accent a build up in the music or highlight edge quality. That said, faster and more complicated entries are also great- they can also fit perfectly into choreography. And it is easier to hide a flutz with more entry steps.
Basically when executed correctly and integrated into the choreography they can both be great.
A spiral is an example of a long glide - just with the leg higher than the hip. A deeper edge, whether on a spiral or a lutz entrance, or coming out of a turn like a counter, for example, is more difficult and shows greater mastery of the blade.
All can be choreographically justified.
Well, interested in seeing spiral into jump entries, as we were talking specifically about the rink-long setups with 0 things going on during them.
It is not about looking easy. When I watch FS, i expect to see stuff. Not just jumps, but you know, things. Long setups basically mean that the skater spends 1/5th or so of their program skating through the rink doing absolutely nothing. It hurts interpretation. It hurts choreo. It hurts performance. It hurts transitions.
Also, you guys say it like one cannot have a perfect Lutz without having a long setup, which is absolutely not true (as there are several ladies who do perfect Lutzes just fine without all that).
Does it affect the difficulty that, with the long set-up, your momentum is headed in the direction opposite of the jump rotation, whereas with the quick change to the outside edge the rest of your body might not actually be moving in the opposite direction of rotation (which I always thought was why the lutz was the hardest of triples aside from the axel)? I don't know enough about the physics of the newly popular lutz entry to understand that.
It is not about looking easy. When I watch FS, i expect to see stuff. Not just jumps, but you know, things. Long setups basically mean that the skater spends 1/5th or so of their program skating through the rink doing absolutely nothing. It hurts interpretation. It hurts choreo. It hurts performance. It hurts transitions.
Also, you guys say it like one cannot have a perfect Lutz without having a long setup, which is absolutely not true (as there are several ladies who do perfect Lutzes just fine without all that).