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About Sochi ladies, i only think that Mao Asada should have won the FS.
This!!
About Sochi ladies, i only think that Mao Asada should have won the FS.
yes!!!!this!!
Hanyu's program did suck, I'm furious he didn't go back to the 2012 Romeo+Juliet, but he still did more than anyone else in that sad competition.
1988 Katarina Witt was the darling but there were so many reasons she should have been second I realize Manley was the underdog and elated with silver unlike the bronze medallist but she deserved gold or rather Witt lost gold - so many others should have placed hegher in the short and or free. This meant Manley would have won gold. A case could also be made for Maria Butyrskaya being robbed of the bronze despite the lovefest with Chen, and Chin over Ivanova in 1984 in ladies but then again if you accept Brian Orser losing then you definitely shoudl accept Chin losing. Both struggled in school figures.
1998 - Lu Chen was glorious and easily wins the Bronze to me, nobody below her was even close to that level of performance and refinement. I would have placed Butyrskaya 6th in the LP. She lacked technical content, having weak landings on most of the jumps she did rotate, and the performance was cold and nervous, which can not just be written off as being "mature and sophisticated", as she tried to campaign. Slutskaya had better technical content and speed and energy. Gusmeroli had a better program than Butyrskaya and a similar level of tech content.
I'm surprised that Chen easily wins the bronze for you. Obviously it's pointless to judge past era/scoring system events by today's standards but I don't think it's wrong if I say that many of Lu Chen's jumps were landed suspiciously or just flat out under.
I'm surprised that Chen easily wins the bronze for you. Obviously it's pointless to judge past era/scoring system events by today's standards but I don't think it's wrong if I say that many of Lu Chen's jumps were landed suspiciously or just flat out under.
And the Ladies event 2002, I would love to see how many people would be arguing for Slutskaya with those performances if she had been some unknown skater from Hungary (like, say, Julia Sebestyen). Almost nobody, I am quite sure. Her skating was superficial and cautious. She didn't hit the tech content, she didn't show good choreography or musicality, she didn't have great form, and she didn't even show a great amount of speed in that performance. She should have been off the podium.
TBH i think the judges might've put Kwan ahead in the Free if this was the case and they saw Slutskaya's about to win
Also I mean... Did she really even land those many under? I thought the lutzes, the flip, and the axel were all fine on rotation lol. And she did 3T+3T<<. Maybe the loop and sal were borderline. It is not perfect technically, but whatever.
Well, I would say the majority of her jumps were right on the edge, and only that first Toeloop was totally backwards, so it can be taken into consideration. In 6.0 terms, let's say she was at a 5.9 base mark, take off .1 for the Flip landing, .1 for the second Lutz being shaky and barely around, .1 for that last toeloop being clearly cheated, and .1 for all further consideration of underrotation in total. It really didn't detract from the impact of the program though, and that body extension and exquisite arms on the landing of the Loop were exactly what we want to see!
It would be nice if in these threads we could be objective and answer the question posed - and not just root for your favorite skater.
I have a problem with anyone disparaging Patrick Chan. He was one of the very best male figure skaters for a good while. Please don't diminish his achievements because you like someone else better.
I do wonder if the two judges who put her 2nd would have dropped her to 3rd, if that was necessary to make the Hughes victory happen because of SP rankings. If they would have flipped like that, then ironically I would have preferred them to just give Slutskaya the SP win, so that Kwan could deservedly take the Silver in the end with her better program.
Seven of the LP judges either had Kwan ahead of Hughes, or ranked directly behind Hughes (exceptions were judges 7 and 9, who had Slutskaya right behind Hughes). So I don't think the judges were trying to manipulate the scores to put Hughes ahead because 7 of them scored the LP in a way that would have Kwan ahead of Hughes in the final result. In other words, if they were trying to see an outcome, it didn't work out as planned (except for those two judges).