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- Jul 29, 2003
Anyone change their minds about how next year will go now that rule changes are in place?
In case you haven't seen it, Shanshani's fabulous efforts in converting past results to new SOV is in this thread
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?73649-Rescoring-past-competitions-w-new-SOV-rules
I've been spending the last week testing out the new system by hand re-scoring several events. How the judges interpret the first 3 bullets is going to make a huge difference in how competitive everyone is - I interpreted "very" good height/distance to mean superior as opposed to "not small", "effortless" to mean no visible sign of struggle or having to check balance, and "good" speed in the spin to simply mean "not slow". In short, jumps have to be big, perfectly clean, and buttery smooth to get +4/+5 while spins need to simply not have flaws. I also gave credit for "element matches music" for almost everything since I'm not sure if that means that it simply needs to be placed somewhere during a nuance in the music or if it needs to have some detail that expresses the character of the music - I went with the former.
Based on that, these are my guesses for next year or 2
1. The return of Chen's 4 loop. Raf and Nathan seem like highly intelligent guys and will figure out quickly that they need it to win. At Rostelecom cup ESP announcers said it was in his planned layout so makes me think he was still working on it at least at the beginning of the season.
2. Biggest beneficiaries of the new system: Hanyu, Kolyada, Osmond (didn't check Higuchi but guessing her too)
3. Hanyu breaks both SP and LP records. Actually, if he gets that 4lutz in the short, I can see Kolyada breaking the short as well.
4. a lot of complaints when a skater makes big mistakes and still wins
5. in reaction, ISU has meetings to change the way the system is judged without actually publishing the changes again
6. Medvedeva gets bronze at worlds
7. Kolyada as the biggest dark horse in men's event. All the falls and that terrible Elvis medley blinded me from the brilliance of his skating - big, smooth jumps with perfect positions, fast spins, deep edges - if he can stabilize that 4 lutz, skate clean, and get better programs, he is the clear #3 in this system. But that's a lot of big ifs.
In case you haven't seen it, Shanshani's fabulous efforts in converting past results to new SOV is in this thread
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php?73649-Rescoring-past-competitions-w-new-SOV-rules
I've been spending the last week testing out the new system by hand re-scoring several events. How the judges interpret the first 3 bullets is going to make a huge difference in how competitive everyone is - I interpreted "very" good height/distance to mean superior as opposed to "not small", "effortless" to mean no visible sign of struggle or having to check balance, and "good" speed in the spin to simply mean "not slow". In short, jumps have to be big, perfectly clean, and buttery smooth to get +4/+5 while spins need to simply not have flaws. I also gave credit for "element matches music" for almost everything since I'm not sure if that means that it simply needs to be placed somewhere during a nuance in the music or if it needs to have some detail that expresses the character of the music - I went with the former.
Based on that, these are my guesses for next year or 2
1. The return of Chen's 4 loop. Raf and Nathan seem like highly intelligent guys and will figure out quickly that they need it to win. At Rostelecom cup ESP announcers said it was in his planned layout so makes me think he was still working on it at least at the beginning of the season.
2. Biggest beneficiaries of the new system: Hanyu, Kolyada, Osmond (didn't check Higuchi but guessing her too)
3. Hanyu breaks both SP and LP records. Actually, if he gets that 4lutz in the short, I can see Kolyada breaking the short as well.
4. a lot of complaints when a skater makes big mistakes and still wins
5. in reaction, ISU has meetings to change the way the system is judged without actually publishing the changes again
6. Medvedeva gets bronze at worlds
7. Kolyada as the biggest dark horse in men's event. All the falls and that terrible Elvis medley blinded me from the brilliance of his skating - big, smooth jumps with perfect positions, fast spins, deep edges - if he can stabilize that 4 lutz, skate clean, and get better programs, he is the clear #3 in this system. But that's a lot of big ifs.