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- Jan 25, 2013
can you give some specific moments in which this has happened? Usually to be a "top skater" this means that the quality of execution or the difficulty of their program is leaps and bounds ahead of the lower tier skaters. so sometimes when you watch a lower tier skater skate perfectly they can still get+1 GOE or less because they do not fulfill the difficulty required to get higher GOEs. again, it is very hard to have a conversation like this if you do not provide actual examples of if/when someone was truly cheated in their GOEs. I mean I can think of a few TOP skaters who get lowballed GOEs.
Flawlessness does not equal high GOEs or automatic 10s in PCS. Flawlessness & high difficulty of technique and jumps give skaters high GOE and 10s on components
You also say that "it's frustrating when a lesser skater can cleanly land a jump and get 0 GOE" do you forget that there are necessary bullets one must hit in order to get positive GOE? the landing is just one criteria of GOE
But a 10.00 should be given for flawless execution, not just high difficulty. And as far as GOE goes, if the element is poorly executed or has a serious error, then that shouldn't be "saved" by the positive GOE bullets.
We've seen Asada get 0 GOE for a UR 3A, and positive GOE for a two-footed 3A. We've seen tons of pairs skaters (e.g. V/T or T/M) have two-footed throws and still get positive GOE. We've seen Chan get +1's for stepping out of a quad. We've seen skaters like Kostner and Hanyu get -2's for falls (and bad falls at that), while other skaters are given -2s for merely a hand down or two-foot. We've seen pairs skaters have asynchronous SBS spins and get +GOE, because the rest of the spins are okay, even though unison is essentially the defining feature. We've seen SO many ice dancers have their twizzles out of sync (e.g. C/L had a twizzle sequence where he did one more turn than her), and yet they're awarded higher GOE than ice dancers who execute them cleanly and in unison.
Of course, none of this is the fault of these skaters, but the judges need to be taken to task for favouritism and generosity, and judge consistently.