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2015-16 Russian Qualifiers and other events

Sam-Skwantch

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What about Ekaterina Mitrofinova? I thought she was underscored at the American JGP. She looked promising to me and she's only 13 years old. Will she not get a JGP spot?
 

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What about Ekaterina Mitrofinova? I thought she was underscored at the American JGP. She looked promising to me and she's only 13 years old. Will she not get a JGP spot?
Katya still learn good 3-3 combinations. With her 2a-3t and 2a-3t-2t not so many prospects :(
 

sneakers

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What about Ekaterina Mitrofinova? I thought she was underscored at the American JGP. She looked promising to me and she's only 13 years old. Will she not get a JGP spot?

too many new wave of russian "baby boomers" will debut this 2016
I dont think there is a place for her, but lets see


I think Tsurskaya, Fedichkina, Nagumanova, Lozko, Tarusina, Konstantinova - (if not going seniors) and Samodurova will get 2 spots barring injuries
the rest will probbaly get 1 spot the most
 

Sam-Skwantch

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Except that's exactly what you're calling it. You just can't accept that Eteri is a good coach. Tell us how it really makes you feel that Eteri has the highest performing senior and junior ladies skater right now. No no no I mean tell us how it REALLY makes you feel. Let it all out.

I don't think there is much to let out. We've all seen the work she is capable of and know she is a good coach. I think Serafima actually did slow down in Eteti's group though. She came out and banged out a very impressive score at her first JGP under Eteri and then began to decline as the season unfolded. She had a struggle fight for that silver at JWC. Anyway...I do think there is a structural issue at play in that group. I wanted Yulia to leave long before she did but the tipping point for me was after one of Eteri's interviews directly after their trip to Zueva. Eteri was blown away at how structured and evenly worked out everyone's ice time and times with coaches were at Arctic. The way everything was scheduled out and evenly distributed. That got me thinking that maybe the same thing is not happening back in Moscow.

I also wonder if the fact that they train at Sambo and the fact that it's a school maybe factors in with students decision leaving as they mature. Get away from that type of atmosphere. I hold no grudge against Eteri but I wonder if she maybe has too much going on to handle everything. Even with Julia gone she has Polina, Zhenia, Adian, and Voronov who all compete at the top elite levels. That is a lot to consider and give priority to on top of the newbie kids that are there too. Does any other singles skating coach take on such a load? It must be daunting. Especially when they inevitably struggle and require extra time than before.

I think reality isn't necessarily a sign of bitterness. YMMV.
 
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hanca

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I think Tsurskaya, Fedichkina, Nagumanova, Lozko, Tarusina, Konstantinova - (if not going seniors) and Samodurova will get 2 spots barring injuries
the rest will probbaly get 1 spot the most
There won't be that many spots as you are suggesting. There will be 14 spots (or maybe 15 if Russia does one junior Grand Prix). That means that if you gave out seven girls two spots, there may be one left (maybe), but no more than that.
 

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There won't be that many spots as you are suggesting. There will be 14 spots (or maybe 15 if Russia does one junior Grand Prix). That means that if you gave out seven girls two spots, there may be one left (maybe), but no more than that.

unless someone else breaks out this coming season
those names could be the ones getting assignments

maybe 1 JGP for Gubanova if she sorts out her issues
is she having early puberty ? her technique was never good, those hammered toe picks and forced take off - ala Gosviani (same original coach) were a suspect
 
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Sofia Samodurova is most improved russian baby in a short period :agree:
second only to Konstantinova in progress in a year

so who will get potential 2 assignments for JGP ?
so many to choose from

Tsurskaya - 2
Nugumanova - 2
Samodurova - 2
Fedichkina - 2
Lozko - 2
Tarusina - 2
Konstantinova - 2 / or she will go seniors ?

Gubanova - 1 or none ?
Mukhortova - 1 or none

Konstantinova can not go to seniors, she has not both Season Best and World Standing.
So she will pretend to JGP.
Maybe Senior B's too, but it does not conflict with JGP.

It is too early to tell about JGP spots, let us wait results of Final of Russian Cup (Junior), Zhuk Memorial, Nationals Elder Age.
Medalists of any of these competitions make their chance to JGP significantly higher.

Also Sakhanovich, Iushenko, Proklova may pretend to JGP too, if restore.

And maybe even Sotskova. Good way to GP Events - way from JrWorlds Podium (way of Sotnikova, Tuktamysheva, Lipnitskaia, Radionova, Pogorilaya, Medvedeva, and Mao Asada, Ashley Wagner and Gracie Gold too - successful in Seniors skaters).
I hope that Tsurskaya will be unbeatable. And for other two places at JrWorlds Podium are four pretenders - Sotskova, Fedichkina, Higuchi, Shiraiwa. Nobody knows who of these four will be at podium.

Katya still learn good 3-3 combinations. With her 2a-3t and 2a-3t-2t not so many prospects :(
Mitrofanova's jumping set (3T+3T in SP, 2A-3T and 2A-3T-2T in FS) is perfectly the same as Lipnitskaia's at season 2011/2012, when she won all, except SrNats where she was second.
If Mitrofanova will make it well and will be stable, she may pretend to JGP Final.
 

hanca

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unless someone else breaks out this coming season
those names could be the ones getting assignments

maybe 1 JGP for Gubanova if she sorts out her issues
is she having early puberty ? her technique was never good, those hammered toe picks and forced take off - ala Gosviani (same original coach) were a suspect

There is still six months till the next season starts (JGP start in August) and a lot can happen is six months. Six months ago Gubanova was getting high scores and half of the ladies you named were nobody. Tsurskaya and Nugumanova had already a name six months ago, but Samodurova, Lozko, Tarusina and Konstantinova definitely did not have results that would justify them having JGP even if they were age eligible (most of them obviously wasn't). My point is, it is far too early to start 'allocating' the events six months before the first competitions start. You don't know who will be struggling, who will suddenly appears out of nowhere and who is struggling now and may manage to fix her issues. Last year I was arguing on this forum with Witcher who claimed that Gubanova would be a lock for team 2018 if she was eligible. Now Gubanova struggles. She may go down like a lots of skaters in the past (Victoria Bezrukova, Natalia Ogoreltseva...) who at some stage has shown a promise but before they had time to shine in Juniors, completely disappeared. By the way, where is Proklova? She also looked very promising, but seems to be constantly injured...I wouldn't be surprised if she was another one who just disappears. But she was tiny, so maybe pairs? Pairs are quite crowded too, but not as crowded as ladies.
 
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Senior And Junior Open Championships of StPetersburg 10-13 Feb 2016

Day 3.

Junior Pairs SP results http://fsevents.narod.ru/event/s1516/champ1/SEG143.HTM
9 entries.
First Mishina/Mirzoev, 62.55, almost 14 points ahead second place.

Senior Pairs (1 entry) and both Senior and Junior Dance are not of serious interest, too weak competitors.
Alex, do you have any info on the senior pair? They looked pretty good at the end of last season, placing fourth at the junior nationals. I thought they were showing quite promise for the future. But they have done no competitions this whole season, this is their first one, and the score of the SP is quite lower than last year. Have they been injured, or is it her puberty? They are also listed for the Russian cup final, so I hope their results will bet better again. I really like their skating, and if I recall, they had both triple Salchow and triple toe loop, which is not what all couples that just moved to seniors have.
 
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Alex, do you have any info on the senior pair? They looked pretty good at the end of last season, placing fourth at the junior nationals. I thought they were showing quite promise for the future. But they have done no competitions this whole season, this is their first one, and the score of the SP is quite lower than last year. Have they been injured, or is it her puberty? They are also listed for the Russian cup final, so I hope their results will bet better again. I really like their skating, and if I recall, they had both triple Salchow and triple toe loop, which is not what all couples that just moved to seniors have.

They did not compete this season. I don't know why.
 

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Konstantinova has maybe the best body for skating amongst all Russian juniors. She's thin as pencil, with nice lines and elegant hands. Plus, being 16 in July, I think she won't be affected by puberty too much in the future.
Great, beautiful costumes this year, interesting programs that she is able and eager to perform very well artistically.
Seems to me, her problems are some messy landings and spins and of course consistency, what's your opinion on her?
 

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Konstantinova has maybe the best body for skating amongst all Russian juniors. She's thin as pencil, with nice lines and elegant hands. Plus, being 16 in July, I think she won't be affected by puberty too much in the future.
Great, beautiful costumes this year, interesting programs that she is able and eager to perform very well artistically.
Seems to me, her problems are some messy landings and spins and of course consistency, what's your opinion on her?

I envision her being a model for a big sports company like Nike or Adidas. Her physique just tells me she could out perform any junior girl in a physical test. I really really hope she does well come junior test skates so she can get some jgp's.
 

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I absolutely adore Stanislava but there are few problems... Aside from consistency issue, she needs more GOE for her jumps to be competitive enough in the current field imo. Her jumps are high (especially 3Lz, which is good) but the landings don't flow much and also she needs more transitions and speed going into them. Some specialists are starting to work with Chebotareva (thanks to Kolyada's success), including a former ice dancer who teaches SS, so it may benefit Stanislava as well.

What impresses me is that until last year, she was getting edge call on both lutz and flip but somehow she managed to fix it. She got two ! for flip at this competition but I don't think she got any call in other recent events. She's definitely improving over the years, though it may seem slower compared to other girls, so I hope she'll keep it up!! (but I believe puberty is totally unpredictable. sadly.)
 
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