2016 Rostelecom Cup Free Dance

[Alex D]

I enjoyed all the skates today and I feel very down for Evan, as he is such a skilled dancer and today he made a costly error on the twizzle. That being said, I can not remember a similar thing by him, so that alone shows that he will be back next time and they don´t have to worry about the GPF either and it´s better to make the mistake now, than at Worlds when it really counts.

For me, the result is absolutely spot on, but I admit that for me the 5th place could have gone to Alex and Elliana. Overall, great stories that I will look at a little bit later if I find the time, as now it´s time for soccer practice with the girls, so until then.

 

[icedance]

I think its going to be C/B, B/S, Shibs, P/C, V/M, and then a battle between Gilles/Poirier and Hub/Don (I think it will go to G/P). C/L are pretty much out with a 4th and an almost guaranteed 4th at NHK.

Why C/L 4th at NHK? Maybe H/B or S/K stronger than them? I don't think so...

 

[MidnightSkater]

so B/S are in for GPF ?
that costly error from Bates lost their chance for gold, It was the right placement, and B/S were marked down at skate america to prop Hubbel/Donohue for silver, poetic justice I say.

Can I "Like" this post a million times ?. You are 100% correct :agree:

 

[humbaba]

Both sad and relieved at C/B's placement. Sad because I would like to have seen them take gold. Relieved because, considering the brutal GP schedule they were given, things could have been much worse.

They had back to back GPs in different time zones. They skated in Canada on Sunday, then had to compete the SD in Russia the following Friday.

I know they're disappointed, but they survived and probably did enough to make the GPF.

 

[bramweld]

B/S held their nerve. C/B have been struggling too much with their twizzles come crunch time. If they can address that they'll be more competitive. Now unto the next GP!!

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

The home cooking for B/S is LAUGHABLE.

LAUGHABLE.

What do you mean home cooking? It's not like they beat their personal best FD by 4 points, and overall total personal best by 8 points.

"There is no home cooking in Russia." No, none at all.

 

[4everchan]

What do you mean home cooking? It's not like they beat their personal best FD by 4 points, and overall total personal best by 8 points.

"There is no home cooking in Russia." No, none at all.

and then people complained about Skate Canada.... really????

oh and on top of that, now it means that when we watch GPF, we will have to endure the painful task of their tragic music alteration of Chopin and Vivaldi... it's not even Ice Dance... it's... okay.. i am going back to bed:hopelessness:

 

[binky]

just watched weaver and poje WOW they were so beautiful!!! I just fell in love totally. Im not getting why they didnt win? I didnt even like to watch the first place and the second seemed very rough and turned that off as well.

 

[sneakers]

What do you mean home cooking? It's not like they beat their personal best FD by 4 points, and overall total personal best by 8 points.

"There is no home cooking in Russia." No, none at all.

C/B had a mistake in their FD, they had a narrow gap in the SD.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Well come the GPF B/S will be back to 182-183 but had the judges been not as wildly generous, then B/S would be below 180, and Russia needs at least one team in the mix.

 

[sneakers]

Well come the GPF B/S will be back to 182-183 but had the judges been not as wildly generous, then B/S would be below 180, and Russia needs at least one team in the mix.

just like propping Osmond with a ridiculous and unrealistic score ? right.

 

[4everchan]

the big burn for Russia will be when teams that didn't make GPF beat them at worlds.... like the Italians

Well come the GPF B/S will be back to 182-183 but had the judges been not as wildly generous, then B/S would be below 180, and Russia needs at least one team in the mix.

 

[coldblueeyes]

People are talking like any team was wronged in the placements. Scores across competitions really matter when people want to whine about something, I guess. And some people deserve to beat their PBs by ten points, while others, do not, it seems.

:scratch3:

 

[beebee51]

I think everyone's scores were too high at SC--high GOES and PCS handed out like candy. But in the end, the placements were pretty much on target.

Seems the general consensus is Shibs will beat WeaPo in China. I predict WeaPo will win--they have very strong material. The FD here was fabulous and the SD just needs some mileage. IMO, their SD is best of the hip hops.

With the departure of anonymous judging, you can really see the games that are played. National favoritism is one thing, but there were some obvious games being played. For example, WeaPo got hosed in both Short and Free by the Lithuanian and Israeli judges. I wonder why, Igor?

Hopefully, partisan judging will be addressed as the season goes on. And don't even start me on Ponomarenko as the Technical Specialist!

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

C/B had a mistake in their FD, they had a narrow gap in the SD.

Oh B/S deserved to win given C/B's mistake but the judges were fully poised to give them the win anyways. Look at C/B's GOE (other than the twizzles error)... So few +3s compared to B/S and their Skate Canada FD a week ago.

Even if C/B had done the STw4 (and got all +3s), mathematically they still would have lost to B/S due to low GOE and B/S' PCS boost over both segments.

 

[madison]

People are talking like any team was wronged in the placements. Scores across competitions really matter when people want to whine about something, I guess. And some people deserve to beat their PBs by ten points, while others, do not, it seems.

:scratch3:

Happy B/S won this. They fully deserved it. I am not impressed by W/P.. they skated without passion.

 

[madison]

Oh B/S deserved to win given C/B's mistake but the judges were fully poised to give them the win anyways. Look at C/B's GOE (other than the twizzles error)... So few +3s compared to B/S and their Skate Canada FD a week ago.

Even if C/B had done the STw4 (and got all +3s), mathematically they still would have lost to B/S due to low GOE and B/S' PCS boost over both segments.

to be honest, i like c/b free programme only because they try smth different.. but i don t know, it seems that smth is missing to be a really memorable programme

 

[coldblueeyes]

Oh B/S deserved to win given C/B's mistake but the judges were fully poised to give them the win anyways. Look at C/B's GOE (other than the twizzles error)... So few +3s compared to B/S and their Skate Canada FD a week ago.

Even if C/B had done the STw4 (and got all +3s), mathematically they still would have lost to B/S due to low GOE and B/S' PCS boost over both segments.

Well, then Skate Canada should have awarded better PCS for C/B's strongest technical skates, and they would have won last week. Oh, but Virtue and Moir were there, so, no.

Every country is playing their own games.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

People are talking like any team was wronged in the placements. Scores across competitions really matter when people want to whine about something, I guess. And some people deserve to beat their PBs by ten points, while others, do not, it seems.

:scratch3:

There's a difference when a historically second tier skater who has never really had a great skate smashes their personal best or they had a great skate before judges started giving higher GOE/PCS (as is the case with Osmond).

Both Osmond at SC and B/S at RC are home inflation - but it seems people are unwilling to admit the latter (even though it's laughably obvious) simply because they love to rail on North American teams and events while thinking Russia (I mean, Russia - of all places!) isn't prone to favourable judging that benefits their own.

 

[Astrid56]

Well, then Skate Canada should have awarded better PCS for C/B's strongest technical skates, and they would have won last week. Oh, but Virtue and Moir were there, so, no.

Every country is playing their own games.

C/B's loss here in COR is understandable but in Canada? It was clearly a case of 'home advantage' for V/M: C/B should have won that event.