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haha they never run out of junkThey better not run out of food at the concession stands!
2022 Skate Canada: Info & Pregame Chat
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Thank you! Ouch, men’s free will go on late.just found this one:
2022 Skate Canada International Results
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just that one time... i tried another one but its size wasn't optimal. I hope you like this oneAlready wondered how often you changed it today
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Kate Wang is out from SC 
Is there time for replacement and in case who?
My thought was that Canada only have 2 ladies, and they can pick a host spot right, or did they already? But I guess they would have done that before when Kate Wang got the replacement and is there any lady available?
Ava Marie Ziegler could be replaced, since she just put herself on the replacement list because of the win at Finlandia Trophy, I guess she is in US so that is closer than Europe. But is it time enough?
Is there time for replacement and in case who?My thought was that Canada only have 2 ladies, and they can pick a host spot right, or did they already? But I guess they would have done that before when Kate Wang got the replacement and is there any lady available?
Ava Marie Ziegler could be replaced, since she just put herself on the replacement list because of the win at Finlandia Trophy, I guess she is in US so that is closer than Europe. But is it time enough?
Yes it will be interesting to see if Piper and Paul will continue to be dropped by the judges or if they will come back strong. And even if they win it will in interesting to see how close they come to the top 2 USA teams from SA.
Honestly. I kinda see what happened to S/F this weekend as pretty strong foreshadowing. To me it was a signal to the Lanes to focus on B/B and let the seniors fade into the background.
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Sad but perhaps true...
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A few things : panel controlled or not by Gadbois, the top two American teams are much better than the other teams. People also forget that Marie-Jade and Romain were doing well as France's number 2 team back then. They are extremely good technicians and with good programs, they will rise the ranks slowly. I think that they were "forgotten" by the judges who are now starting to retrieve their memory... perhaps because they have been taking Prevagen (sorry, we got to have some humour in here... it is was one of the sponsors of SKAM and it is a drug supposed to help with memory).
The Australians were really good in the RD but were placed low in the FD with the same panel... so they didn't get a freebie... they had mistakes, and they paid the price. Also, Dai was not always clean and got punished.
Where I tend to agree with you is that some skaters are definitely shortchanged and have to deal with the pressure of always being flawless. They are never given the benefit of the doubt. I felt Shane was hammered and some of these calls were harsh. I would also accept the idea that KanaDai know that they are a bit weaker as a developing team and that if they make a tiny mistake, they will pay the price for it... This sort of pressure is not a recipe for success... As a hardcore Bourne and Kraatz fan, I often felt that other teams got away with small mistakes but BK were scrutinized for everything... and sometimes it led to big errors from them, and the judges didn't even have to put them behind.... as they had "evidence".
So in light of that, it will be interesting to see what kind of panel Skate Canada has... and how the scores are given out... especially since Fear and Gibson have been scoring very high all season (perhaps even too high) and that LaLa are on the rise.... how will Piper and Paul fare in there...
One would want to assume that they will win Skate Canada... but they could even place 3rd at this point considering what we have seen on the challenger circuit.
Finally, many have mentioned that the judges are a bit confused this year with the new rules... not only for the pattern dance step sequence but with some of the choreo features like the assisted jump. On top of that, the PCS categories have been streamlined... From following juniors and challengers, I would say it's been a hot mess.
Honestly. The only reason I put them winning in my predictions is due to it being in Canada.
I kinda think that worlds bronze was their peak, judges have never liked them.
I have to strongly disagree with the statement that the Ice Dance tech team was "all American". The Tech Controller was Shawn Rettstatt, and yes he is American, but according to ISU rules, the TSs cannot be US-appointed as well. Kristin Fraser-Lukanin skated for Azerbaijan, is married to an Azerbaijani, and has always judged for Azerbaijan. Andrzej Dostatni lives in the US, but he is Polish born and judges for Poland---and furthermore, he has historically not been kind to US ice dancers.
Soucisse-Firus were not the only ones "dumped" by the SA tech panel. McNamara/Spiridinov were getting much higher scores at their two previous events than they got at SA.
Soucisse-Firus were not the only ones "dumped" by the SA tech panel. McNamara/Spiridinov were getting much higher scores at their two previous events than they got at SA.
lol here.
General observations:
There's a lot in the rules that's not happening
So why shouldn't a lot be happening that's not in the rules
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the problem I have with this statement is that I remember noticing that Rettstatt was quite harsh on virtue and moir.... who were at Gadbois...
So is he just super pro-american from gadbois.... and the top 3 teams from the USA trained there until Hubbell-Donohue retired... ? because I don't think we can say he has favoured the Canadian skaters from Gadbois... or has he?
and to answer chuckie here.
The tech controller doesn't always need to intervene but as soon as the tech specialists are not agreeing with a calll, the tech controller breaks the tie... so it's a pretty powerful position.... so no more of "the tech controller is not involved: that's not true at all.
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Also Mr R was at play when Quentin and Sandrine were scored a huge number of points lower from their previous event... and that strangely favoured two american teams...
I will end this here.. because I tend to let judges do their job... and bite my lip... they are at the rink. They know better. But then, this season, ice dance judging has been strange... to say the least... even the score box cannot keep up
I will end this here.. because I tend to let judges do their job... and bite my lip... they are at the rink. They know better. But then, this season, ice dance judging has been strange... to say the least... even the score box cannot keep up
