I don't think it is possible to skate as a neutral athlete in the team competition, and later to represent Spain. It is not logical. But we will see.
I agree, iwould think that he would need to compete under olympic flag all way through.
I don't think it is possible to skate as a neutral athlete in the team competition, and later to represent Spain. It is not logical. But we will see.
Okay.. I don't know if this has been discussed earlier but what implications does this have for the team event? Right now I'm assuming Russia can compete as a team just not under their own flag and they will be called the Olympic team? In that case I think they should have the right to get Javi. I say this because I want Javi to have a medal and skating for the Olympic team(Russia) would get him one. (The last part about Javi was said tongue in cheek btw)
Actually.. in Rio several countries competed under the neutral flag didn't they? So theoretically if one of those countries had say a fantastic goalie for the women's hockey team could they join the Russian women?
Okay.. I don't know if this has been discussed earlier but what implications does this have for the team event? Right now I'm assuming Russia can compete as a team just not under their own flag and they will be called the Olympic team? In that case I think they should have the right to get Javi. I say this because I want Javi to have a medal and skating for the Olympic team(Russia) would get him one. (The last part about Javi was said tongue in cheek btw)
Actually.. in Rio several countries competed under the neutral flag didn't they? So theoretically if one of those countries had say a fantastic goalie for the women's hockey team could they join the Russian women?
It seems Russia is accepting IOC decision and will pay the fines. I think it’s reasonable to allow OAR to carry Russian flag at the closing ceremony as these are clean athletes. It would encourage all the best and clean Russian athletes to come and compete.
My prediction is that OAR athletes won't be able to compete at the Team Event because it's not an actual country.
My prediction is that OAR athletes won't be able to compete at the Team Event because it's not an actual country.
I think that's good, Russia should accept they made a big mistake and these are the consequences, it is what it is.
It sucks mostly for the athletes who really fought hard to be at the Olympics, and now it's a mess: we don't know if scores will change for OAR athletes (it SHOULDN'T), we don't know who is going, who stays...
Glad to see that the athletes want to compete: http://www.espn.com/olympics/story/...letes-want-compete-upcoming-pyeongchang-games
My prediction is that OAR athletes won't be able to compete at the Team Event because it's not an actual country.
Okay.. I don't know if this has been discussed earlier but what implications does this have for the team event? Right now I'm assuming Russia can compete as a team just not under their own flag and they will be called the Olympic team? In that case I think they should have the right to get Javi. I say this because I want Javi to have a medal and skating for the Olympic team(Russia) would get him one. (The last part about Javi was said tongue in cheek btw)
Actually.. in Rio several countries competed under the neutral flag didn't they? So theoretically if one of those countries had say a fantastic goalie for the women's hockey team could they join the Russian women?
It's also important to note that the Independent Olympic team does not equal Russia ... but comprises a contingent that includes athletes from Russia.
Potential problem/ obstacles the Russian athletes faces:
1. Selection process will be done in mid-late January and nominations then approvals will be done only in February. Remember competition starts Feb 9. So don't be shock if some skaters who got approval won't be able to compete because their papers didn't "meet" the deadline.
2. Russia can send list of names who they want to be approved but still the committee will decide who can go even the athlete is not on the "preferred list" Russia submitted.
3. Valerie Fourneyron. She has been unpologetically campaigning for a blanket ban of Russia since Rio 2016. its not a coincidence why she is part of the 3-man committee. Remember the committee is given 100% power to decide who compete so I believe a slightest doubt will get you off the list. Even though Bobrova was eventually cleared of doping, the fact that she was investigated creates "doubt" to her bid. I have serious question if she will be permitted to compete.
I'm really expecting the committee will make it hard even for the clean athletes to make the OAR team especially since some of them have clear bias and already made their minds that no Russian athletes should be in the Olympics.
But I thought they were going as Olympic Athletes from Russia. I wonder if they would be separate from other athletes with no flag in case there were some like in Rio. I think yes.
Potential problem/ obstacles the Russian athletes faces:
1. Selection process will be done in mid-late January and nominations then approvals will be done only in February. Remember competition starts Feb 9. So don't be shock if some skaters who got approval won't be able to compete because their papers didn't "meet" the deadline.
2. Russia can send list of names who they want to be approved but still the committee will decide who can go even the athlete is not on the "preferred list" Russia submitted.
3. Valerie Fourneyron. She has been unpologetically campaigning for a blanket ban of Russia since Rio 2016. its not a coincidence why she is part of the 3-man committee. Remember the committee is given 100% power to decide who compete so I believe a slightest doubt will get you off the list. Even though Bobrova was eventually cleared of doping, the fact that she was investigated creates "doubt" to her bid. I have serious question if she will be permitted to compete.
I'm really expecting the committee will make it hard even for the clean athletes to make the OAR team especially since some of them have clear bias and already made their minds that no Russian athletes should be in the Olympics.
Does this mean that Zhenya and Alina have lower chances of going since they are genuine medal contenders?
"This panel will be guided in its decisions by the following principles:3. Valerie Fourneyron. She has been unpologetically campaigning for a blanket ban of Russia since Rio 2016. its not a coincidence why she is part of the 3-man committee.
Even though Bobrova was eventually cleared of doping, the fact that she was investigated creates "doubt" to her bid. I have serious question if she will be permitted to compete.
I'm really expecting the committee will make it hard even for the clean athletes to make the OAR team especially since some of them have clear bias and already made their minds that no Russian athletes should be in the Olympics.