2018 Skate America: GP Predictions Game Round 1

[Skatie]

Ladies
1 Satoko MIYAHARA JPN
2 Kaori SAKAMOTO JPN
3 Bradie TENNELL USA
4 Polina TSURSKAYA RUS
5 Marin HONDA JPN
6 Elena RADIONOVA RUS

Men
1 Nathan CHEN USA
2 Sergei VORONOV RUS
3 Nam NGUYEN CAN
4 Vincent ZHOU USA
5 Morisi KVITELASHVILI GEO
6 Michal BREZINA CZE

Pairs
1 Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV
2 Alexa SCIMECA KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM
3 Alisa EFIMOVA / Alexander KOROVIN
4 Ashley CAIN / Timothy LEDUC
5 Annika HOCKE / Ruben BLOMMAERT
6 Walsh /Michaud

Dance
1 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE
2 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI
3 Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER
4 Tiffani ZAGORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO
5 Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON
6 Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV

 

[Ziotic]

Walsh/Michaud have been added!

 

[ragdoll]

Oh what fun! I started taking part in this last season but fell ill and had to spend months in hospital. I hope to be able to stay seated and at home this season. I missed a lot of skating last season due to illness and haven't been able to keep up with each and every skater's progress, new programs etc but will give it a go anyway:

Skate America:

Ladies:

1. MIAHARA
2. TSURTSKAYA
3. TENNELL
4 SAKAMOTO
5. RADIONOVA
6. HENDRICKX


Men:

1.CHEN
2. VORONOV
3. ZHOU
4. RIZZO
5. KVITELASHVILI
6. BYCHENKO


Pairs:

1. TARAZOVA/MOROZOV
2. EFIMOVA/kOROVIN
3. SCIMECA KNIERIM/kNIERIM
4, CAIN7LEDUC
5. HOCKE7BLOMMAERT
6. HASSE7SEEGERT


Dance:

1. HUBBEL/DONOHUE
2. GUIGNARD/FABRI
3.NAZAROVA/NIKITTIN
4. ZAGORSKI/GUERREIRO
5. TWEETDALE/BUCKLAND
6. MACNAMARRA/CARPENTIER

Good luck to all skaters and all prediction gamers and fans!

 

[tabsy]

Ladies
1. Bradie TENNELL
2. Loena HENDRICKX
3. Sofia SAMODUROVA
4. Satoko MIYAHARA
5. Kaori SAKAMOTO
6. Marin HONDA

Men
1. Nathan CHEN
2. Sergei VORONOV
3. Vincent ZHOU
4. Matteo RIZZO
5. Morisi KVITELASHVILI
6. Jimmy MA

Pairs
1. Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV
2. Ashley CAIN / Timothy LEDUC
3. Alexa SCIMECA KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM
4. Annika HOCKE / Ruben BLOMMAERT
5. Nica DIGERNESS / Danny NEUDECKER
6. Evelyn WALSH / Trennt MICHAUD

Ice Dance
1. Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE
2. Tiffani ZAGORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO
3. Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER
4. Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON
5. Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI
6. Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN

 

[Orlov]

They have assigned scorers for each discipline who total up the scores after the events for us. They even keep a spreadsheet running that keeps the current scores of the season. Just make a prediction and see how you do. Even if you don’t know a discipline well you can still put them into a random order and hope for the best. You’ll need all the points you can get because some of these peeps are good. I just aim to beat Mrs P and I never have

One more questions. I have seen many people leave a message "Placeholder". Did I understand correctly that I can edit my record (for example, insert a prediction about men, which I did not do)? How do organizers struggle with possible obvious cheating? Do they close the thread just before the competition until the predictions will be counted?

 

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One more questions. I have seen many people leave a message "Placeholder". Did I understand correctly that I can edit my record (for example, insert a prediction about men, which I did not do)? How do organizers struggle with possible obvious cheating? Do they close the thread just before the competition until the predictions will be counted?

There are clear rules about deadlines posted in the GP game rules thread. The mods have the data on the time of the last edit: before it was visible to everyone. I think that it makes sense to reintroduce it just for the predictions threads. The caught cheaters' scores (even if involuntary) are dismissed. Those who made a border like violation such as changing the prediction 30 minutes before the competition starts (the deadline is 1 hour) are discussed among scorers. But usually their predictions are dismissed as well.

One more time. After I wrote about mistakes in the last names immediately 2 more predictions appeared with "Tennel", "Miahara", and "Tsurtskaya". I won't score SA and I don't know if the ladies scorer will be lenient. But when I score I will give 0 points to every prediction with a wrong last name spelling. It is not because I am evil or because I want to feel "I've got the power!" The algorithm used by me and some other scorers relies on changing the last names to codes. Like I type in excel: replace *Miyahara* by Miy. Then the algorithm calculates the scores. It won't understand that Miahara is the same as Miyahara, won't replace it with the code and the score won't be calculated. I cannot use abbreviations like replace *Hon* with Hon because other skaters (Hongo and Honda) and even users might be affected.

 

[lilsailor]

Men
1, Nathan Chen
2, Vincent Zhou
3, Sergei Voronov
4, Nam Nguyen
5, Alexei Bychenko
6, Morisi Kvitelashvili

Ladies:
1, Satoko Miyahara
2, Bradie Tennell
3, Kaori Sakamoto
4, Marin Honda
5, Sofia Samodurova
6, Leona Hendrickx

Pairs
1, Tarasova/Morozov
2, Scimeca Knierim/Knierim
3, Cain/Le Duc
4, Efimova/Kovorin
5, Hocke/Blommaert
6, Walsh/Michaud

Dance
1, Hubbel/Donohue
2,Guignard/Fabbri
3, Kaliszek/Spodyriev
4, McNamara/Carpenter
5, Nazarova/Nikitin
6, Fear/Gibson

 

[moriel]

Ladies
1. Bradie TENNELL
2. Satoko MIYAHARA
3. Kaori SAKAMOTO
4. Loena HENDRICKX
5. Sofia SAMODUROVA
6. Polina TSURSKAYA

Men
1. Nathan CHEN
2. Sergei VORONOV
3. Vincent ZHOU
4. Matteo RIZZO
5. Kevin REYNOLDS
6. Morisi KVITELASHVILI

Pairs
1. Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV
2. Alexa SCIMECA KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM
3. Alisa EFIMOVA / Alexander KOROVIN
4. Ashley CAIN / Timothy LEDUC
5. Annika HOCKE / Ruben BLOMMAERT
6. Nica DIGERNESS / Danny NEUDECKER

Dance
1. Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE
2. Tiffani ZAGORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO
3. Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER
4. Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI
5. Robynne TWEEDALE / Joseph BUCKLAND
6. Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN

 

[DSQ]

Ladies:
1. Bradie TENNELL (206.41)
2. Kaori SAKAMOTO (180.85)
3. Satoko MIYAHARA (201.23)
4. Loena HENDRICKX (204.16)
5. Starr ANDREWS (159.76)
6. Polina TSURSKAYA (154.61)
———
7. Marin HONDA (178.89)

If Sakamoto can have that score with a nightmare skate and Miyahara can have quite a good one with that score I back Sakamoto. Radionova is a wild card, you can’t quite count out a two time European silver medalist. With Honda something in my gut says no, I like her but no.

Men:
1. Nathan CHEN (N/A)
2. Matteo RIZZO (227.97)
3. Vincent ZHOU (204.62)
4. Sergei VORONOV (239.73)
5. Morisi KVITELASHVILI (231.19)
6. Nam NGUYEN (213.52)
———
7. Michal BREZINA (208.27)
8. Julian Zhi Jie YEE (201.29)
9. Kevin REYNOLDS (198.83)

Mostly guts again. I think Zhou will thrive under pressure and support.

Pairs:
1. Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV (198.98)
2. Ashley CAIN / Timothy LEDUC (181.56)
3. Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nolan SEEGERT (161.61)
4. Alexa SCIMECA KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM (177.22)
5. Alisa EFIMOVA / Alexander KOROVIN (178.94)
6. Nica DIGERNESS / Danny NEUDECKER (150.83)

Here I just used their seasons best scores (in brackets) but gave Knierim/Knierim a home town advantage.

Dance:
1. Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE (197.42)
4. Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI (193.28)
3. Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER (178.64)
4. Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON (160.61)
5. Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN (N/A)
6. Tiffani ZAGORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO (N/A)
———
7. Robynne TWEEDALE / Joseph BUCKLAND (153.59)
8. Natalia KALISZEK / Maksym SPODYRIEV (141.63)
9. Katharina MÜLLER / Tim DIECK (147.15)

Here I used a mixture of both ways, gut plus scores.

This is H/D’s to lose but McN/C could do well as they both have the home advantage. GUI/FAB had the home advantage in Lombardia where their score comes from but they won’t here, however I doubt they’ll drop 20 points so they should be safe.

4, 5 & 6 were hard. NAZ/NIC and ZAG/GUE have not competed yet but both couples were at the Olympics and beat F/G at Worlds. However, I just so completely love F/G’s Free (and I’m biased) so I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt here.

The bottom three are based on points but I placed M/D last as they got that score in Germany so it doesn’t look good for them.

 

[lichi]

Ladies:
1. Bradie Tennell
2. Kaori Sakamoto
3. Satoko Miyahara
4. Loena Hendrickx
5. Sofia Samodurova
-
6. Polina Tsurkaya

Bradie can really just rely on mistakes from her opponents to get her to gold. I love and would like to believe in Tiny Queen, but URs IF Sakamoto goes clean, she can easily get her gold. Loena Hendrickx has also made quite an impression from Worlds to Nebelhorn, and I would hope for her to get a GP medal.

Men:
1. Sergei Voronov
2. Nathan Chen
3. Vincent Zhou
4. Moris Kvitelashvili
5. Matteo Rizzo
-
6. Nam Nyugen

Alright.. I changed it up a little bit. I think Nathan's been struggling a bit recently, so took a bit of a risk and put Voronov on top.

Pairs:
1. Tarasova/Morozov
2. Knierim/Knierim
3. Cain/Leduc
4. Efimova/Konovin
5. Hocke/Blommaert
-
6. Hase/Seegert

My favorite discipline! No Chinese Pairs here, but still a nice lineup. Gold is easy. They should have GP season in the bag, with many of the top teams not competing. I can see the French edging them out in the GPF though, esp with the momentum. This is also the year for the Knierims to step it up. I'll be rooting for them

Ice Dance:
1. Hubbell/Donohue
2. Guignard/Fabbri
3. Zagorski/Guerrerio
4. McNamara/Carpenter
5. Nazarova/Nikitin

Walk in the park for H/D.

 

[yoloaxel]

Ladies:
1. Bradie Tennell
2. Satoko Miyahara
3. Loena Hendrickx
4. Kaori Sakamoto
5. Marin Honda
6. Sofia Samodurova

Men:
1. Nathan Chen
2. Vincent Zhou
3. Sergei Voronov
4. Matteo Rizzo
5. Morisi Kvitelashvili
6. Nam Nguyen

Pairs:
1. Tarasova\Morozov
2. Scimeca-Knierim\Knierim
3. Yu\Zhang
4. Cain\Leduc
5. Efimova\Korovin
6. Digerness\Neudecker

Dance:
1. Hubbell\Donohue
2. Guignard\Fabbri
3. McNamara\Carpenter
4. Zahorski\Guerreiro
5. Manta\Johnson
6. Fear\Gibson

 

[Jeanie19]

Most people (myself included) cut and paste from the OP and it makes sense. I would urge those who use different ways of typing predictions to double check what they type. I skimmed through first ladies predictions and found out "Turskaya", "Tennel", and "Tenell" Correct typing the last names is the key to efficient scorers' work when there are 100+ predictions. And technically the above-mentioned predictions can be disqualified at scorer's discretion.

One more thing. It happened before that there were 2 different prediction posts from the same user. Like only ladies in the first one and the full set with different ladies prediction in the second one. These cases were discussed among scorers. Technically ladies prediction in such a case can be disqualified alltogether.

I think it's the autocorrect. I'm trying to type the name and add it as a new word. My dictionary is growing on my kindle.

 

[invisiblespiral]

Men:

1. Chen
2. Voronov
3. Kvitelashvili
4. Rizzo
5. Zhou
6. Nguyen

Ladies:

1. Tennell
2. Miyahara
3. Sakamoto
4. Hendrickx
5. Samodurova
6. Honda

Pairs:

1. Tarasova/Morozov
2. Scimeca-Knierim/Knierim
3. Cain/Leduc
4. Eifmova/Korovin
5. Hase/Seegert
6. Hocke/Blommaert

Dance:

1. Hubbell/Donohue
2. Guignard/Fabbri
3. Zagorski/Guerriero
4. McNamara/Carpenter
5. Kaliszek/Spodyriev
6. Fear/Gibson

 

[AshWagsFan]

Ladies:
1. Tennell
2. Sakamoto
3. Miyahara
4. Hendrickx
5. Tsurskaya
6. Samodurova

Men:
1. Chen
2. Voronov
3. Zhou
4. Kvitelashivi
5. Rizzo
6. Nguyen

Pairs:
1. Tarasova/Morozov
2. Cain/LeDuc
3. Knierim/Knierim
4. Hase/Seegert
5. Efimova/Korovin
6. Li/Xie

Dance:
1. Hubbell/Donohue
2. Guinard/Fabbri
3. Zagorski/Guerreiro
4. McNamara/Carpenter
5. Nazarova/Nikhitin
6. Kaliszek/Spodyriev

 

[AshWagsFan]

So excited for the gp!!! Such an exciting season ahead of us! Hopefully I can repeat success in dance predictions as last year and hopefully my other predictions improve (we’ll see) :thumbsup:

 

[schizoanalyst]

I usually suck at these.

Women:

1 - Kaori SAKAMOTO
2 - Bradie TENNELL
3 - Loena HENDRICKX
4 - Satoko MIYAHARA
5 - Polina TSURSKAYA
6 - Marin HONDA

Men:

1 - Nathan CHEN
2 - Sergei VORONOV
3 - Matteo RIZZO
4 - Morisi KVITELASHVILI
5 - Vincent ZHOU
6 - Nam NGUYEN

Pairs:

1 - Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV
2 - Alexa SCIMECA KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM
3 - Ashley CAIN / Timothy LEDUC
4 - Alisa EFIMOVA / Alexander KOROVIN
5 - Annika HOCKE / Ruben BLOMMAERT
6 - Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nolan SEEGERT

Dance:

1 - Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE
2 - Tiffani ZAGORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO
3 - Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI
4 - Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER
5 - Lilah FEAR / Lewis GIBSON
6 - Robynne TWEEDALE / Joseph BUCKLAND

 

[dodobirdo]

This'll be my first crack at the prediction games, but I figured now's a good time as any to give it a try:

Men:
1. Chen
2. Voronov
3. Zhou
4. Kvitelashvili
5. Rizzo
6. Brezina

Ladies:
1. Tennell
2. Miyahara
3. Sakamoto
4. Samodurova
5. Hendrickx
6. Honda

Pairs:
1. Tarasova/Morozov
2. Scimeca Knierim/Knierim
3. Cain/Leduc
4. Efimova/Korovin
5. Hocke/Blommaert
6. Hase/Seegert

Dance:
1. Hubbell/Donohue
2. Guignard/Fabbri
3. Zagorski/Guerreiro
4. McNamara/Carpenter
5. Kaliszek/Spodriev
6. Nazarova/Nikitin

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

Firstly, I have some good news.

For the first time ever, there will be a prize for the overall winner come the end of the Predictions Game!!!



gsk8 has very kindly donated four GS Supporters packages, which will be presented to the overall winner of each of the four Predictions Games that are being held this season:

1. Senior Grand Prix Predictions Game
2. National Championships Predictions Game
3. Junior ISU Championships Predictions Game
4. Senior ISU Championships Predictions Game

Thank you to gsk8 for this kind gesture. It will certainly add an extra dimension to the Predictions Games.

There are clear rules about deadlines posted in the GP game rules thread. The mods have the data on the time of the last edit: before it was visible to everyone. I think that it makes sense to reintroduce it just for the predictions threads. The caught cheaters' scores (even if involuntary) are dismissed. Those who made a border like violation such as changing the prediction 30 minutes before the competition starts (the deadline is 1 hour) are discussed among scorers. But usually their predictions are dismissed as well.

Can I just add, in the past, the "1 hour before the start of the first SP" was just a recommended time to get your predictions in by, so that players weren't running around at the last minute trying to make predictions. Back then, we would have allowed predictions for each category right up to the start of their SP.

But now that the last edit time is not visible, that "1 hour before the start of the first SP" has become a set deadline so that the scorers have time to get the predictions saved before the start of the competition, to prevent cheating.

And hard as it may be to believe, but cheating has happened in the Predictions Game. One time we had somebody completely change their Men's predictions after the SP was over. But because we could see the time of the last edit, we were able to check with a Mod what changes were made, and the player was duly disqualified.

One more time. After I wrote about mistakes in the last names immediately 2 more predictions appeared with "Tennel", "Miahara", and "Tsurtskaya". I won't score SA and I don't know if the ladies scorer will be lenient. But when I score I will give 0 points to every prediction with a wrong last name spelling. It is not because I am evil or because I want to feel "I've got the power!" The algorithm used by me and some other scorers relies on changing the last names to codes. Like I type in excel: replace *Miyahara* by Miy. Then the algorithm calculates the scores. It won't understand that Miahara is the same as Miyahara, won't replace it with the code and the score won't be calculated. I cannot use abbreviations like replace *Hon* with Hon because other skaters (Hongo and Honda) and even users might be affected.

samkrut put in a lot of work devising the algorithm that we use to do the scoring. So, it is no wonder that he is frustrated when he sees so many spelling mistakes that would mess it up.

Copying and pasting names from the entry list is far and away the easiest way of making out your list of predictions. So, I don't understand why players would even think of doing it any other way, especially if that other way incurs the risk of being disqualified.

Make life easy for yourself, and for the scorers. Copy and Paste is your friend!

CaroLiza_fan

 

[Sabine]

Ladies:
1. Bradie Tennell
2. Satoko Miyahara
3. Kaori Sakamoto
4. Loena Hendricxx
5. Sofia Samodurova
6. Marin Honda

Men
1. Nathan Chen
2. Vincent Zhou
3. Sergei Voronov
4. Moris Kvitelashvili
5. Matteo Rizzo
6. Nam Nguyen

Pairs
1. Tarasova/ Morozov
2. Cain/ Leduc
3. Scimeca Knierim/ Knierim
4. Efimova/ Korovin
5. Hocke/ Blommaert
6. Digerness/ Neudecker

Dance
1. Hubbell/Donohue
2. Guignard/Fabbri
3. Zagorski/Guerreiro
4. McNamara/Carpenter
5. Nazarova/Nikitin
6. Kaliszek/Spodyriev

 

[Tolstoj]

Ladies
1. Bradie TENNELL
2. Kaori SAKAMOTO
3. Sofia SAMODUROVA
4. Satoko MIYAHARA
5. Loena HENDRICKX
6. Polina TSURSKAYA

Men
1. Nathan CHEN
2. Vincent ZHOU
3. Sergei VORONOV
4. Jimmy MA
5. Moris KVITELASHVILI
6. Nam NGUYEN

Pairs
1. Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV
2. Alexa SCIMECA KNIERIM / Chris KNIERIM
3. Ashley CAIN / Timothy LEDUC
4. Alisa EFIMOVA / Alexander KOROVIN
5. Nica DIGERNESS / Danny NEUDECKER
6. Minerva Fabienne HASE / Nolan SEEGERT

Ice Dance
1. Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE
2. Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI
3. Tiffany ZAGORSKI / Jonathan GUERREIRO
4. Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER
5. Natalia KALISZEK/Maksym SPODYRIEV
6. Alexandra NAZAROVA/Maxim NIKHITIN