2017 JGP Austria Mens SP

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31 Aug - 2 Sep 2017

Thursday, 31 August 2017, 17:55 Local Time UTC +2

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Salzburg Austria

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START ORDER​

StN. Name Nation Warm-Up Group 1 1 Conrad ORZEL CAN 2 Nurullah SAHAKA SUI 3 Ivan SHMURATKO UKR 4 Nika EGADZE GEO 5 Anton SKOFICZ AUT Warm-Up Group 2 6 Charles Henry KATANOVIC CRO 7 Sena MIYAKE JPN 8 Mark GORODNITSKY ISR 9 Mate BOROCZ HUN 10 Luc ECONOMIDES FRA Warm-Up Group 3 11 Geon Hyeong AN KOR 12 Ryan DUNK USA 13 Luc MAIERHOFER AUT 14 Camden PULKINEN USA 15 Jonathan HESS GER Warm-Up Group 4 16 Basar OKTAR TUR 17 Nik FOLINI ITA 18 Radek JAKUBKA CZE 19 Nikolaj Molgaard PEDERSEN DEN 20 Evgeni SEMENENKO RUS 21 Egor MURASHOV RUS

Entries

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No.	Name	Nation
1	Luc MAIERHOFER SP Figaros Hochzeit by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart; choreo by Benoit Richaud LP Tango selection, including Libertango by Astor Piazzolla; choreo by Benoit Richaud	AUT
2	Anton SKOFICZ SP Thriller by Michael Jackson, Black or White by Michael Jackson; choreo by Manuel Koll LP Inglorious Bastards (soundtrack), Time (from "Inception" soundtrack) by Hans Zimmer; choreo by Manuel Koll	AUT
3	Conrad ORZEL SP Secrets by One Republic, Beethoven's Five Secrets by The Piano Guys; choreo by Shae Zukiwsky (SP) LP Big My Secret (from "The Piano" soundtrack) by Michael Nyman Knowing the Ropes (soundtrack); choreo by Allison Purkiss (FS)	CAN
4	Charles Henry KATANOVIC SP Galascyar by Mikestats Music; choreo by Jean-Francois Ballester LP Torn by Nathan Lanier; Skynim Drum Selection; choreo by Jean-Francois Ballester	CRO
5	Radek JAKUBKA SP The Race by Yello; choreo by Eva Horklova, Gabriela Hrazska LP Sixteen Tons performed by Ernie Ford, Tango to Evora performed by Loreena McKennitt, Born to Be Alive performed by Patrick Hernandez, Selection from Cirque du Soleil; choreo by Eva Horklova, Gabriela Hrazska	CZE
6	Nikolaj Molgaard PEDERSEN SP Electro Swing (Freshly Squeezed) by DJ Dunya - Xylo Swing; choreo by Igor Tsion LP Momentum (soundtrack) by Laurent Eyquem; choreo by Igor Tsion	DEN
7	Luc ECONOMIDES SP Send In the Clowns performed by Barbara Streisand; choreo by Florent Amodio LP Un Amor; choreo by Florent Amodio	FRA
8	Nika EGADZE SP Rhapsody On A Theme Of Paganini by Sergei Rachmaninov; choreo by Daniil Gleikhengauz LP Opening Theme (from "Sherlock Holmes" soundtrack) by Hans Zimmer,Not in Blood But In Bond (from "Sherlock Holmes" soundtrack) by Hans Zimmer, I Never Woke Up In Handcuffs (from "Sherlock Holmes" soundtrack) by Hans Zimmer, Discombulate Sabotage (from "Sherlock Holmes" soundtrack) by Hans Zimmer; choreo by Daniil Gleikhengauz	GEO
9	Jonathan HESS SP Who Wants to Live Forever performed by David Garrett; choreo by Stefan Hörrman LP Pearl Harbour (soundtrack) by Hans Zimmer; choreo by Stefan Hörrman	GER
10	Mate BOROCZ SP Run Boy Run by Woodkid; choreo by Kristof Forgo LP Nostradamus by Maksim Mrvica, Catch the Falling Sky by Immediate Music; choreo by Kristof Forgo	HUN
11	Mark GORODNITSKY SP Diego, libre dans sa tete by Michel Berger, performed by Johnny Hallyday Band; choreo by Andrei Berezintsev LP Per Te performed by Josh Groban; choreo by Andrei Berezintsev	ISR
12	Nik FOLINI SP I Still Got the Blues by Gary Moore; choreo by Andrea Gilardi LP Romeo and Juliet; choreo by Andrea Gilardi	ITA
13	Sena MIYAKE SP Caravan performed by The Ventures; choreo by Misao Sato, Kenji Miyamoto LP Les Miserables by Claude-Michel Schoenberg; choreo by Misao Sato, Kenji Miyamoto	JPN
14	Geon Hyeong AN SP Spiderman; choreo by Alex Chang LP Pirates of the Caribbean (soundtrack); choreo by Alex Chang	KOR
15	Egor MURASHOV SP Aknaszlatina by Okean Elzi; choreo by Galina Ishchenko LP Sir Duke performed by Stevie Wonder, Lately performed by Stevie Wonder; choreo by Galina Ishchenko	RUS
16	Evgeni SEMENENKO SP Billie Jean by Michael Jackson, Beat It by Michael Jackson; choreo by Tatiana Prokofieva, Adam Solya LP Don Juan de Marco (soundtrack); choreo by Tatiana Prokofieva, Adam Solya	RUS
17	Nurullah SAHAKA SP Les yeux de la mama/Gitrano by Kendji Girac; Cornelia Leroy (SP) LP Pierrot and the Moon by Maxime Rodriguez; choreo by Karine Arribert (FS)	SUI
18	Basar OKTAR SP This Place Was a Shelter by Olafur Arnalds; choreo by Sergei Rozanov, Benoit Richaud LP The Great Gatsby Ballet; choreo by Sergei Rozanov, Benoit Richaud	TUR
19	Ivan SHMURATKO SP Domani performed by Andrea Boccelli; choreo by Irina Chubarets LP Wheel of Fortune (from "Pirates of the Caribbean") by Hans Zimmer; choreo by Irina Chubarets	UKR
20	Ryan DUNK SP Firedance by Bill Whelan; choreo by Ryan Dunk LP Pas de Deux (from "Nutcracker") by Petr I. Tchaikovski; choreo by Ryan Dunk	USA
21	Camden PULKINEN SP Fix You by Coldplay; choreo byTom Dickson, Drew Meekins LP 12 Etudes, Op. 10-No.1 in C by Frederic Chopin; choreo byTom Dickson, Drew Meekins	USA

 

[Lyssa]

Alexey Erokhov is replaced by Egor Murashov

 

[silverfoxes]

Oh...I hope Erokhov isn't injured. I am very curious to see Murashov as well, though.

 

[The Finn]

Oh...I hope Erokhov isn't injured. I am very curious to see Murashov as well, though.

Damn, I was looking forward to see how Erokhov does. Hopefully he is fit to skate at later events.

 

[dorispulaski]

Oh...I hope Erokhov isn't injured. I am very curious to see Murashov as well, though.

I made the change.

 

[4everchan]

Go Conrad!!!!

 

[berry8]

No doubt Orzel will win this!

 

[4everchan]

No doubt Orzel will win this!

oh i have my doubts.... Conrad went from 1 quad, 1 3a last year in his lp... to 4 quads, 2 3a and well.. let's just say he has been a mess he removed the quad lutz in his second summer event but still did poorly... So we will see what layout he picks.

So I hope he does well and skates to his potential.

 

[puremagic]

Oh...I hope Erokhov isn't injured. I am very curious to see Murashov as well, though.

I don't know to whom I should believe. Here you can find the name Murashev in the list. Or he's in Salzburg, or in Moscow

 

[Mango]

Apart from Orzel and Semenenko I'm not sure who could medal here.

 

[sheetz]

So Ryan Dunk self-choreographed both of his programs? That's a bit unusual.

 

[silverfoxes]

Apart from Orzel and Semenenko I'm not sure who could medal here.

Egor earned 210.75 at the Cup of Tyrol last season...he's quite decent imo.

 

[Mango]

Egor earned 210.75 at the Cup of Tyrol last season...he's quite decent imo.

Thanks for the info. I never saw him compete so I don't know a thing about him.

 

[chuckm]

Some recent summer comp scores:

195.89 (64.16+131.73) Camden PULKINEN (USA) - Skate Detroit
189.70 (65.48+124.22) Sena MIYAKE (JPN) Asian Open
183.56 (57.72+125.84) Geon Hyeong AN (KOR) Asian Open
178.52 (60.60+117.92) Ryan DUNK (USA) - Philadelphia Intl (ISU event)
175.16 (58.67+116.49) Conrad ORZEL (CAN) - Minto
169.86 (60.59+109.28) Mark GORODNITSKY (ISR) - Skate Detroit

Here's what Egor Murashov did at Cup of Tyrol. Bear in mind it was a SENIOR competition, and the scores were generous. He was 3rd in the SP, 5th in the FS and 6th overall. Deniss VASILJEVS won with 240.44.

3. Egor MURASHOV RUS 72.33 39.28 33.05 6.60 6.30 6.70 6.65 6.80 0.00 3a, 3z+3t, 3lo
5. Egor MURASHOV RUS 138.42 70.02 69.40 7.00 6.70 7.00 6.90 7.10 1.00 3a+2t, 3a<<↓, 3f, 3z+3t, 3z+2t+2lo, 2a, 3lo, 3s

BTW, you really can't compare a spring competition like Cup of Tyrol with a late summer comp. By late spring, skaters are comfortable with their programs; in late summer, skaters are still in the learning stages.

 

[4everchan]

Some recent summer comp scores:

195.89 (64.16+131.73) Camden PULKINEN (USA) - Skate Detroit
189.70 (65.48+124.22) Sena MIYAKE (JPN) Asian Open
183.56 (57.72+125.84) Geon Hyeong AN (KOR) Asian Open
178.52 (60.60+117.92) Ryan DUNK (USA) - Philadelphia Intl (ISU event)
175.16 (58.67+116.49) Conrad ORZEL (CAN) - Minto
169.86 (60.59+109.28) Mark GORODNITSKY (ISR) - Skate Detroit

Here's what Egor Murashov did at Cup of Tyrol. Bear in mind it was a SENIOR competition, and the scores were generous. He was 3rd in the SP, 5th in the FS and 6th overall. Deniss VASILJEVS won with 240.44.

3. Egor MURASHOV RUS 72.33 39.28 33.05 6.60 6.30 6.70 6.65 6.80 0.00 3a, 3z+3t, 3lo
5. Egor MURASHOV RUS 138.42 70.02 69.40 7.00 6.70 7.00 6.90 7.10 1.00 3a+2t, 3a<<↓, 3f, 3z+3t, 3z+2t+2lo, 2a, 3lo, 3s

BTW, you really can't compare a spring competition like Cup of Tyrol with a late summer comp. By late spring, skaters are comfortable with their programs; in late summer, skaters are still in the learning stages.

As a matter of fact, one cannot compare any competition to any other... especially at that level... I thought perhaps you would be more cautious with these types of predictions after saying Lajoie-Lagha were way below the Russians and the Americans last week...

 

[Mango]

Mark Gorodnitsky competed at Summer Skate. His FS wasn't bad, we gave him a lot of applause. Not sure what he did in Skate Detroit but then if we pull numbers from random competitions I guess we do get strange analyses.

Conrad also skated at Summer Skate. What kind of outdated results are we supposed to be looking at anyways?

If we really do want to do a random results comparison then the best one I got involving Conrad is JGP Dresden and Thornhill Summer Skate. Conrad did poorly in the FS in Thornhill and finished 2nd, some double digit points back from Stephen Gogolev. By the time Dresden rolled around that was behind him and he skated basically clean and won a silver medal.

So yeah, you never know what kind of skating you'll get from these quad kids at a competition.

 

[silverfoxes]

As a matter of fact, one cannot compare any competition to any other... especially at that level... I thought perhaps you would be more cautious with these types of predictions after saying Lajoie-Lagha were way below the Russians and the Americans last week...

I'm just saying that he has potential to skate decently with 3A. Jesus. Most of the boys here who I am familiar with would never top 200 at a junior or senior competition. You don't need to do a deep dive analysis to realize that. I am curious to see if Gorodnitsky has really improved though. I like him, and also Nika Egadze, who is training with Tutberidze now.

 

[chuckm]

As a matter of fact, one cannot compare any competition to any other... especially at that level... I thought perhaps you would be more cautious with these types of predictions after saying Lajoie-Lagha were way below the Russians and the Americans last week...

That isn't what I said. Posters were saying L/L were a shoo-in for gold based on their scores at the JWC. What I said was the event was more competitive than they thought, because of summer competition results (Lake Placid) where the top Russians and the Americans had competed, and that Lajoie / Lagha's summer comp scores from Quebec were inflated, and yes, they were inflated.

I looked at the Quebec protocols compared to the Brisbane protocols, and the Quebec GOE (TES-BV) was 4.5 greater than the Brisbane GOE in the SD, and 4.0 greater in the FD. That difference is far greater than the value of the difference between TW4 and TW3. And the Quebec PCS was 2.35 points greater for the SD and 3.89 for the FD. While BV is based on what was technically executed, GOE and PCS are quite subjective, and you would expect a panel of home-based judges to score higher than a panel of international judges---and obviously, they did.

Meanwhile, Lewis/Bye skated quite badly, with many more mistakes than they did at Lake Placid, so their scores went way down, especially in the SD.

You can look at scores as an estimate of what a skater can do. Club competitions usually have a majority of judges from the home country, while ISU competitions like Asian Open, Lake Placid and Philadelphia Intl have international judges. IMO, ISU competitions are more reliable scorewise, so Camden Pulkinen's 195 at Skate Detroit isn't necessarily better than the upper 180s scored at the Asian Open.

When you don't have summer comp scores, which is usually the case for the Russian skaters, the only scores available are SBs or other data from the late season. But you do have to recognize that those scores aren't comparable NOW. The same was true for Lajoie / Lagha's WJC score. They were not going to skate up to a late season level in August, so that score (148.26) was unlikely. And their Quebec score (152.70) was way out of the ballpark. No wonder they were disappointed with the 138.92 they scored at Brisbane, when their expectations were geared up so high.

 

[Mango]

If a skater can only be disappointed about their score and not the fact that they made a mistake or two then we are not being empathetic or maybe we've narrowed our ideas about what teenagers may think or feel. Most of these guys are teenagers, after all.

The SP draw should be happening today.

 

[4everchan]

I'm just saying that he has potential to skate decently with 3A. Jesus. Most of the boys here who I am familiar with would never top 200 at a junior or senior competition. You don't need to do a deep dive analysis to realize that. I am curious to see if Gorodnitsky has really improved though. I like him, and also Nika Egadze, who is training with Tutberidze now.

oh i had no issue with your comment