2017 Ondrej Nepela Trophy Men SP

[el henry]

Came just in time to see Grant.

Woot!

Grant said in his blog that this SP is for Caroline:luv17: and I love his passion. He is also funny and self-aware, he also wrote: I know my choices are warhorses, please watch them and see what I do before you roll your eyes and make comments.

 

[EdgeCall]

Final score:

Pos	Start	Name		TES	PCS	DED	TOTAL
1	5	Sergei VORONOV	RUS	44,25	37,60	1,00	80,85
2	23	Grant HOCHSTEIN	USA	42,93	38,05	1,00	79,98
3	20	Alexander SAMARIN	RUS	38,89	38,05	1,00	75,94
4	1	Keiji TANAKA	JPN	39,71	36,10		75,81
5	3	Brendan KERRY	AUS	38,51	36,20		74,71
6	2	Ryuju HINO	JPN	35,15	32,10		67,25
7	10	Chafik BESSEGHIER	FRA	32,19	34,85		67,04
8	15	Nicolas NADEAU	CAN	32,70	35,05	1,00	66,75
9	9	Ivan PAVLOV	UKR	35,42	31,25		66,67
10	7	Mikhail KOLYADA	RUS	29,00	39,65	2,00	66,65
11	12	Burak DEMIRBOGA	TUR	36,21	28,75		64,96
12	21	Slavik HAYRAPETYAN	ARM	34,41	30,45		64,86
13	6	Chih-I TSAO	TPE	34,78	29,75	1,00	63,53
14	8	Jinseo KIM	KOR	31,44	31,75	1,00	62,19
15	17	Lukas BRITSCHGI	SUI	25,70 ?	28,45		54,15 ?
16	18	Engin Ali ARTAN	TUR	29,03	25,00		54,03
17	16	Jan KURNIK	CZE	23,00	27,10		50,10
18	22	Michael NEUMAN	SVK	22,73	23,35		46,08
19	4	Jakub KRSNAK	SVK	19,09	24,15		43,24
20	13	Marco KLEPOCH	SVK	18,61	24,45	1,00	42,06
21	11	Alexander MASZLJANKO	HUN	16,83	25,75	1,00	41,58
22	14	Marco ZANDRON	ITA	17,54	23,95		41,49
23	19	Albert MÜCK	AUT	18,34	20,65	1,00	37,99

 

[OS]

Came just in time to see Grant.

Woot!

Grant said in his blog that this SP is for Caroline:luv17: and I love his passion. He is also funny and self-aware, he also wrote: I know my choices are warhorses, please watch them and see what I do before you roll your eyes and make comments.

-1 point for warhorse, +10 for true love! You deserve better PCS Grant!!!!

 

[xeyra]

The fact he had the same PCS as Samarin boggles the mind.

 

[EdgeCall]

Sergei was barely able to beat Evgenia. Everyone else ... :shame:

 

[matcha]

Sergei was barely able to beat Evgenia. Everyone else ... :shame:

Hehe it's her WR score too. Cute.

 

[OS]

Sergei was barely able to beat Evgenia. Everyone else ... :shame:

Holy Crap, Evegenia received 80 LOL???!!! Where was I!! The Russian fed is strong with this one. Better catch up...

 

[starla16]

The fact he had the same PCS as Samarin boggles the mind.

meaning the judges like samarin, I think they will prop him if clean, he will be russian no.1 this season.

 

[el henry]

Sergei was barely able to beat Evgenia. Everyone else ... :shame:

I'm sorry, was Zhenya skating here? It's wonderful that she can score so high and I applaud her.

But is the point that boys shouldn't get beaten by girls? Which is like, something that a five year old would say? That is, a five year old in 1960, because I think five year olds now are too smart to say that.

Certainly not any reason for "shame".

 

[EdgeCall]

I'm sorry, was Zhenya skating here? It's wonderful that she can score so high and I applaud her.

But is the point that boys shouldn't get beaten by girls? Which is like, something that a five year old would say? That is, a five year old in 1960, because I think five year olds now are too smart to say that.

Certainly not any reason for "shame".

Thank you for implying I am stupid. I don't know if five year olds know the concept of irony, but I guess it depends on where they grow up. Sorry, I don't bite.

 

[Tolstoj]

I'm actually happy that Sergei is in first place considering how much he has to fight to be considered in Russia, despite the others are far from being great skaters and often worse than him.

I like his programs: once again Misha Ge proved that he has a great future as choreographer.

 

[NoNameFace]

Came just in time to see Grant.

Woot!

Grant said in his blog that this SP is for Caroline:luv17: and I love his passion. He is also funny and self-aware, he also wrote: I know my choices are warhorses, please watch them and see what I do before you roll your eyes and make comments.

well, for me he's the one who has a right to eye-roll those who eye-roll his musical choices, with such engaged, passionate performances. I'll repeat myself to death - in my opinion it is really not about music being overused/warhorse - it's all about how skater is using it, it's more of the quality than quantity. Grant's music choices could be frown upon, but for me he truly can give out the feel of 'Moulin Rouge' or Phantom, interpret them and actually emote to the people with honest feel in it. He certainly has a soul for this kind of skating and I'm a rapt fan of his dedication, taking him as he is. And the fact that he and Caroline are skating at Nepela together and he dedicated SP to her - beyond amazing, I do wish for such bond with someone one day, I really do.

 

[OS]

Just caught up with men's SP.

Thought Keiji's marks were underscored as I had, but Brandan did have a very nice SP this season, and his improvements in all aspect of his SS is encouraging to see. One of those Japan no.3,4,5 vs Australia no.1 proposition perhaps. (Also Samarin and Brandan had more uplifing popular music while his is more subdued may have also affected the judging, as well skated earlier than everyone.) Brendan seems to have slimmed down a bit this year and in better shape than before to cope with the ever upgrading Quads demands. Good luck to him!

I am iffy on Voronov's SP to be honest, not sure if is the choreography or performance. Think it need better direction. Oh well, let's see how the LP goes.

 

[gmyers]

Kolyada is too injured. He can be fine skipping all fall events and returning at Russian nationals.

 

[karne]

A bit bummed out this morning because last week's score at Lombardia would have have Brendan in the lead here. Darn it.

EDIT: Slightly less bummed now that I've seen the video and the protocol. All level 4 spins and steps! And the rest of the program was lovely.

 

[nolangoh]

Sergei was barely able to beat Evgenia. Everyone else ... :shame:

actually Sergei didn't even beat her, remember the PCS factor? If EVgenia's score is calculated in the men's way it would be 89.27. almost 9 points ahead of him. :confused2:

 

[silverfoxes]

meaning the judges like samarin, I think they will prop him if clean, he will be russian no.1 this season.

LOL. His PCS should not even be in the same ballpark as Dima's. He got a lousy 75 here and now he's the new Russian #1? We haven't even seen Dima or Max yet.

And why in the world is it necessary to keep bringing up Evgenia's scores here? Should we compare pairs and ice dance scores to her too? It's a different discipline with different scoring. The men are ALL inconsistent. Even in the ladies, Evgenia is a one in a thousand skater (unless Eteri's other girls make it past puberty). Just enough already.

 

[el henry]

....

And why in the world is it necessary to keep bringing up Evgenia's scores here? Should we compare pairs and ice dance scores to her too? It's a different discipline with different scoring. The men are ALL inconsistent. Even in the ladies, Evgenia is a one in a thousand skater (unless Eteri's other girls make it past puberty). Just enough already.

:agree::agree::agree:

 

[evasorange]

How the F*** did Kolyada get higher pcs then Grant??? what world are the judges living in?

 

[skatenewbie]

does anyone know why Dima withdraw? i was looking forward to him... i guess we'll see him in CoR next month then