2021-22 Potential GP Assignments

[Sk8D8]

Assuming we go back to original format...

For men and ladies, roughly 36 spots assuming 2 assignments each

MEN
14 spots - Chen, Hanyu, Uno, Brown, Rizzo, Messing, Cha, Moris K., Kagiyama, Aymoz, Grassl, Kolyada, Vasiljevs are all top 20 in World Standings and SB score. Add Semenenko due to 8th place at Worlds.

11 spots - top 24 World standings- Samarin, Aliev, Jin, Nguyen, Danielian, Pulkinen, Tanaka, Brezina, Gumennik, Hiwatashi, Fa

6 spots- top 20 SB score (leaving space to perhaps add 4 more later due to WTT)- Yan Han, Frangipani, Britschgi, Selevko, Milyukov, Majorov

So that is 31 spots. Leaving 5 more to use among US, CAN, RUS, and JPN skaters. Top contendors IMO...

USA- Paniot, Naumov, Zhou, Ma
CAN- Sadovsky, Circelli, Phan, Orzel, Nadeau
RUS- Ignatov, Kondratyuk, Mozalev
JPN- Tomono, Shun Sato

LADIES
15 spots - Kihira, Shcherbakova, Tuktamysheva, Trusova, Tennell, Sakamoto, Miyahara, Ryabova, Yelim, Karen Chen, Kiibus, Haein, Schott. Add Loena and Mikutina for being top 12 @ Worlds.

9 spots - top 24 World Standings- Kostornaia, Eunsoo, Samodurova, Young, Medvedeva, Bell, Paganini, Higuchi, Starr

5 spots - top 20 SB score- Schizas, Taljegard, Zundert, Feigin, Urushadze

That is 29 spots. Top contendors for remaining 7ish spots...although I imagine some of these taking priority over the 5 SB score skaters from above..

USA- Amber Glenn, Alysa Liu, Audrey Shin
CAN- Schumacher, Bausback, Daleman, Ruiter
RUS- Valieva, Usacheva, Khromykh, Nugumanova
JPN- Matsuike, Mihara, Kawabe
CHN- Hongyi Chen

Doesn't all this change if they give GPs based on the new list in April? 2018/19 removed. If so, then Bell along with others, will not be in the top 24 any longer and Amber is. It's going to be interesting to see what happens, that's for sure.

 

[RemyRose]

Men World Standings after 2018-19 is dropped. Very rough calculations, rounded a bit. I did not reduce 2019-20 to 70%

1-5
Hanyu 3230
Chen 2400
Brown 2320
Kagiyama 2260
Aliev 2250
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6-10
Rizzo 2060
Grassl 2050
Moris 2020
Jin 1970
Messing 1930
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11-15
Uno 1910
Aymoz 1790
Samarin 1780
Cha 1660
Vasiljevs 1440
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16-20
Danielian 1430
Mozalev 1370
Nam 1340
Selevko 1190
Gumennik 1170
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21-24
Camden 1160
Shun Sato 1140
Tanaka 1120
Ignatov 1080
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Others
Bychenko 1040
Litvintsev 1020
Fa 990
Tomono 940
Torgashev 870
Shmuratko 840
Tomoki 820
Kolyada 790
Sadovsky 740
Frangipani 700
Brezina 630
Zhou 240

Fell out of top 24: Kolyada, Brezina, Tomoki, Fa
Added to top 24: Sato, Mozalev, Selevko, Ignatov

Not reducing last season makes this inaccurate. Ignatov isn't in the top 24, he only has 756 pts. Kolyada is top 24 he has more points than Ignatov.

Kagyama is 3rd, not 4th, and so on.

 

[ramurphy2005]

Not reducing last season makes this inaccurate. Ignatov isn't in the top 24, he only has 756 pts. Kolyada is top 24.

Kagyama is 3rd, not 4th, and so on.

It was just an attempt to see what would happen if the ISU doesn't reduce things to account for a lot of skaters not having an opportunity to compete in 2020-2021.

 

[RemyRose]

It was just an attempt to see what would happen if the ISU doesn't reduce things to account for a lot of skaters not having an opportunity to compete in 2020-2021.

A lot of skaters didn't have a chance to get a SB so what will they do there?

Like I mentioned prior, unless you qualified to the FP at World's, for the men's so far, that's only Europeans (not including Russia) occupying the SB list. Sure WTT might add a couple more but.....

 

[ramurphy2005]

A lot of skaters didn't have a chance to get a SB so what will they do there?

Like I mentioned prior, unless you qualified to the FP at World's, for the men's so far, that's only Europeans (not including Russia) occupying the SB list.

The whole thing is probably going to be a mess no matter what they decide to do, knowing the ISU.

 

[RemyRose]

The whole thing is probably going to be a mess no matter what they decide to do, knowing the ISU.

It's going to be messy. Surely the US, Canada, France, Russia, Japan would want to put more of their guys on the GP other than the 1-3 sent to World's over say Britschgi, Milyukov and Majorov. I wonder when they will address this?

 

[removof]

I think that Anna Frolova deserves to be selected for Grand Prix.

 

[Jeanie19]

There are still 2 challengers that just say postponed. It would be great if the skaters had one more chance for seasons best. WTT will have 50% of the same skaters from Worlds.

 

[lurkerghost1]

I think that ISU should rewrite criteria by combining 19-20 and 20-21 season's bests and guarantee the top 24 scores two spots, and also still use top-12 finish at worlds to guarantee two spots. WS one spot per usual. After all, most skaters didn't compete this year internationally.

For ladies, to the top 24 scores we can add Ryabova (top 12 finish at worlds) and the skaters who are top 24 WS (Glenn, Andrews, Urushadze, Tornaghi, Kiibus, and Schott) and we end up with:

• Russia (18): Kostornaia, Trusova, Shcherbakova, Valieva, Medvedeva, Tuktamysheva, Sinitsyna, Usacheva, Khromykh (Zagitova and Vasilieva retired)
• USA (10): Tennell (2), Bell (2), Chen (2), Liu (2), Glenn (1), Andrews (1)
• Japan (8): Kihira, Miyahara, Sakamoto, Higuchi
• Korea (8): Young, Haein, Yelim, Eunsoo
• Others (12): Hendrickx (2), Kurakova (2), Mikutina (2), Ryabova (2), Urushadze (1), Tornaghi (1), Kiibus (1), Schott (1)

That's 56/72 spots. If instead everyone gets two spots, that's 62/72. Disclaimer, still have to figure out host spots (although Russia might not get one? because they already have 18 spots).

If this criteria is chosen there are only a few athletes of interest who are "missing:" Matsuike, Kawabe, Mihara, Kawabata, Audrey Shin, Schizas, Paganini, Yi Christy Leung, Chen Hongyi.

Of course there are other big federation skaters who are just maybe too far down the depth chart to get spots (Nugumanova, Frolova, Guliakova, Tarakanova, Samodurova, Yamashita, Yokoi, Honda)

 

[ladyjane]

I am hoping Lindsay van Zundert gets the opportunity to compete at one GP. Small federation. Don´t exactly understand the criteria / there´s also something about seeding skaters.

 

[Colonel Green]

I am hoping Lindsay van Zundert gets the opportunity to compete at one GP. Small federation. Don´t exactly understand the criteria / there´s also something about seeding skaters.

Van Zundert would be entitled to one Grand Prix if the Grand Prix proceeds under the longstanding rules since, by virtue of having made the free skate at the season's lone event that counts, she is #16 on the top 24 season's best list for 2020/21.

 

[ladyjane]

Van Zundert would be entitled to one Grand Prix if the Grand Prix proceeds under the longstanding rules since, by virtue of having made the free skate at the season's lone event that counts, she is #16 on the top 24 season's best list for 2020/21.

Thank you Colonel Green. I hope it´s going to work out that way.

 

[MaHa75]

Thank you Colonel Green. I hope it´s going to work out that way.

I dont think its possible for Zundert....she is too far from sb and top 24!

 

[Colonel Green]

I dont think its possible for Zundert....she is too far from sb and top 24!

No she isn’t. She’s #16 on the season’s best list currently.

 

[chuckm]

The current Seasons Best list consists of skaters who competed at Worlds or two Challenge events. It's too short a list to be used for GP selections. And if you combine the 2019-20 and 2020-21 lists, Van Zundert's Worlds score stands at #72.

 

[allaboutdrama]

Is Anastasia Shabotova gonna be at the GP 2021?

 

[Colonel Green]

Is Anastasia Shabotova gonna be at the GP 2021?

No, she doesn’t have the standing to qualify.

 

[allaboutdrama]

Does Anastasia Shabotova need a spot from another country, like Hungary? Or is it because the Junior Grand Prix was cancelled?

 

[Bluediamonds09]

Could that "new girl" Olga get a gp assignment? Or Jenni Saarinen who imploded at worlds, true, but has potential?

 

[Lzbee]

Could that "new girl" Olga get a gp assignment? Or Jenni Saarinen who imploded at worlds, true, but has potential?

Olga Mikutina should get 2 spots for being top 10 at worlds. Not sure about Jenni Saarinen... I suspect her results won't be enough.