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Mariott

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Gianni Morandi - . Circo di Mosca, 1983

 

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i was talking more from a general point of view and not just about music. some people believe. as for the last decades as i said there's nothing to admire or worth listening to

I admire the movie which is named “St. Giuseppe Moscati: Doctor to the Poor” (I mean it is named so in English). I watched it in high quality in Russian and I think the Russian translation is good (even though I can’t compare it to the original).
I think this is a fantastically beautiful and meaningful movie! Now this is one of two best movies ever for me.


In Russian it is named “Giuseppe Moscati: The Healing Love”.
 
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I admire the movie which is named “St. Giuseppe Moscati: Doctor to the Poor” (I mean it is named so in English). I watched it in high quality in Russian and I think the Russian translation is good (even though I can’t compare it to the original).
I think this is a fantastically beautiful and meaningful movie! Now this is one of two best movies ever for me.


In Russian it is named “Giuseppe Moscati: The Healing Love”.
happy you like something from my culture even though expression of just one side of it. you might want to try something more secular though, christian movies tend to agiographic/brainwashing. you have to forgive me but i come from a long tradition of atheist people (my greatgrandfather was one of the first communists in southern italy :biggrin: ).
 

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happy you like something from my culture even though expression of just one side of it. you might want to try something more secular though, christian movies tend to agiographic/brainwashing. you have to forgive me but i come from a long tradition of atheist people (my greatgrandfather was one of the first communists in southern italy :biggrin: ).

OK. In Russia traditions of atheism are strong too.
I don’t think that I’m Christian now. I do believe in God, but I don’t visit church. For me The New Year was always more important than Christmas (and etc).
As for the movie, I do like it. For me it is not just about being Christian or not Christian.

I was shy to mention the song which is named “Bella Ciao”, but I was thinking about that song when I opened this thread. Muslim Magomaev sang it. For me every part of the history is important, I believe many communists deserve respect. :)
 

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I believe this world can become a better place when people of different religions will have learned to love each other and to love atheists too. I don’t mean policy of all-permissiveness, but I agree with the idea that we need to build bridges, not walls. :)
 
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OK. In Russia traditions of atheism are strong too.
I don’t think that I’m Christian now. I do believe in God, but I don’t visit church. For me The New Year was always more important than Christmas (and etc).
As for the movie, I do like it. For me it is not just about being Christian or not Christian.

I was shy to mention the song which is named “Bella Ciao”, but I was thinking about that song when I opened this thread. Muslim Magomaev sang it. For me every part of the history is important, I believe many communists deserve respect. :)
Bella ciao is one of the most important songs of our recent history. the song of a partisan who's going to die for his homeland (don't get fooled by the catchy rythm) and as the great granddaughter of a partisan, is especially dear to me (with Fischia il Vento, which is my favourite partisan song, check it out). communism was an utopia, as such it couldn't work because as a species we're competitive and selfish. historical communism made sense in the time it was created and was expression of the society of that time. would still make sense be a communist in 2023? a socialist maybe :unsure:
I believe this world can become a better place when people of different religions will learn to love each other and to love atheists too. I don’t mean policy of all-permissiveness, but I agree with the idea that we need to build bridges, not walls. :)
i totally agree with you
Surely you know that I made this thread more for you, to give an idea of our view of Italian music, right?
thank you so much, i'm apreciating the great work you're doing! i myself know very little of russian modern music Red Army Choir aside
 

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When did religion and its discussion come into this thread? 😅 That's okay, I'm that rare type that accepts both religious and atheists, and only sends to hell those who underestimate talented figure skaters 😄

"Bella Ciao" is very fondly loved in Russia, it was presented to us as a song about the struggle for freedom and the fight against fascism. Muslim Magomayev, the diamond male voice of the USSR, brought this song from his trip to Italy and sang it in his own way, very emotionally.



Magomayev sang other Italian songs as well. This is not what I call pop music, but as an example of a talented artist understanding a foreign culture:



This is not a single video but a link to a playlist, once one video is finished, the next one automatically starts. This is a complete selection of all songs sung by Magomayev in Italian.​
 
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Bella ciao is one of the most important songs of our recent history. the song of a partisan who's going to die for his homeland (don't get fooled by the catchy rythm)

Yes, I know this is a partisan song. This is why I didn’t dare to mention it earlier. I wasn’t sure I can mention it now (when war actions are going on).

On the video which Mariott posted Magomayev stresses some words of the song so strongly, because he tries to make people clap rhythmically (he says Italian people clap to this song).

Magomayev was able to sing “Bella Ciao” more harmoniously (without stressing some words so strongly)

 

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On this video Magomayev sings an upbeat and inspirational Italian song. I don’t understand the lyrics, but it seems to me it can be called upbeat.

“Tu Mi Piaci”

 

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Oh how I love that 60's music, light, frivolous and chaste. Magomayev here is not as academic as usual, he doesn't try to sing like an opera singer, he is very light and fun. And he really is incredibly talented, as he sings so easily in a language he hasn't known since childhood. However, Russian was not his native language either. Musicians with excellent hearing have the ability to convey the words of an unfamiliar language without distortion.
Yes, I know that he went to study at La Scala, but I don't think he learned the language perfectly. And he sings like he was born Italian.

 

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I think old songs are not too old, if even children sing them :)
In Russia children do sing these songs :)

Santa Lucia (Valeri Kuzakov)


L’italiano (Stanislav Kashevarov)
 

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Santa Lucia and O sole Mio are classics :wink:

When did religion and its discussion come into this thread?
when i hijacked the thread :hijacked: :LOL: let's get it back on track also on my side. if you don't know them i'd like to introduce you to two great artist of the late 70s and early 80s

Matia Bazar - Ti Sento



Antonella Ruggero was one of a kind, her voice was really special listen what high notes she can reach, don't try this at home :LOL: . (lately she left the band, the new singer, although really good, wasn't as special as Antonella)


Mia Martini - Minuetto



next stop: Anna Oxa :biggrin:
 

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Antonella Ruggero was one of a kind, her voice was really special listen what high notes she can reach, don't try this at home :LOL: . (lately she left the band, the new singer, although really good, wasn't as special as Antonella)

Mia Martini - Minuetto
Of course we know Antonella! 🫶She gained popularity in the USSR with the hit "Ellettrochoc". Please note, the comments to the video are in Russian only :biggrin:



"@gfrrailee3539
10 months ago
My heartfelt congratulations to Antonella Ruggiero on her 70th birthday. Many more years to her!"

"@letsm0ti0n
9 months ago
How great it is to read half of the comments in your native language and realize how close the countries of the former USSR and Italy are in spirit and culture. When we were young we loved the same music and we still listen to it."

"Matia Bazar" are really loved in Russia, we often invited them to retro concerts.



I always wondered why Mina didn't come to the USSR as part of the Italian team. Everyone who came at least once got insanely popular
I know about Mina that she was going through a family tragedy and living in Switzerland, so perhaps traveling to the mysterious and closed USSR is not what she would have wanted.
 

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Viola Valentino gained a certain popularity in the USSR with the song "Romantichi".



When I listen to this music, happy tears come to my eyes. I'm three or five years old again, and I'm dancing with my aunt to the sound of the record. What a sweet memory! What a distant and bright era! 🥹

By the way, Viola was very warmly received in our country, because her style of singing was very close to us. Russian singers also practiced intimate and soulful style of singing and performance. It was very popular in the music of those years. It is not by chance that Russian romances became very popular.

 
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I always wondered why Mina didn't come to the USSR as part of the Italian team. Everyone who came at least once got insanely popular
I know about Mina that she was going through a family tragedy and living in Switzerland, so perhaps traveling to the mysterious and closed USSR is not what she would have wanted.
Mina stopped showing herself in public alltogether. as for Viola her most popular song in Italy is Comprami :biggrin: nothing else survived the 70s she also went through a rough time when she broke up with Riccardo Fogli
 

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Mina stopped showing herself in public alltogether. as for Viola her most popular song in Italy is Comprami :biggrin: nothing else survived the 70s she also went through a rough time when she broke up with Riccardo Fogli
Well, Riccardo was and is doing well, he's very well-liked in Russia. I hope he's okay now?
These are two videos from the 2011 and 2018 concert in Moscow.





He's quite the grandpa by now, but we're still happy to see him​
 

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Well, Riccardo was and is doing well, he's very well-liked in Russia. I hope he's okay now?
These are two videos from the 2011 and 2018 concert in Moscow.





He's quite the grandpa by now, but we're still happy to see him​

he should be in his late 70 early 80? anyway they broke up because he was cheating on her with another woman (maybe the Ricchi e Poveri blone singer? i should ask my mom :LOL: )
 

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Part V. From 90's to 20's. Starting over

As you all know, in 1991 the USSR was gone. Russia turned into a typical capitalist state, where musical demands were determined by the needs of the majority. The country was flooded with new, unknown music. Some of it turned out to be nothing, some of it is still remembered today, but mostly the music of the 90's was a complete slag, let's call it that. Italian singers no longer had the opportunity to represent the whole musical world for us, no one sent airplanes with artists and did not receive them in Russia like kings. To get popularity in Russia, an Italian singer had 5 ways to go:

1. To become famous in Europe, and perhaps in the whole world.

This is how Robert Miles (Roberto Concina) and the band Corona became famous in Russia in the 90s.


If Corona turned out to be a typical band of its time, Robert Miles' music seems timeless. I am pleased to still listen to it today.




Also memorable were two hits by the band Eiffel 65, I vividly remember dancing at high school discos to these songs.


Someday I'll tell you why we were laughing so hard to the chorus of "I'm Blue" 😏


I recently found out that this band continues to release music, well, I'm very happy and wish them every success.

Zucchero, although they didn't get any lasting fame, but they managed to rock with one hit, which was loved by Russians, I can tell by the number of covers.



2. Record a joint hit with some American star, get on MTV

This is how Eros Ramazzotti, whom Russians remember mainly only for his joint performances with Tina Turner, Cher and Enrique Iglesias, became famous.




However, Eros is a cool guy, no question, but his Italian solo songs are remembered less often.


3. To come more often with concerts, to remind ourselves (for our favorite Italians of San Remo, those who have already become popular before)

As you can see, our favorite Italian oldies are always welcome.

It`s the unique Adriano Celentano! He managed not only to come with old songs, but also released 2 (two) new hits - in the second half of the 90s and in the early 2000s! Truly, this is an incredible musician.

In 1996 he released a touching song "Ja tebya lublu", and of course Russian fans were not left it out. The song became a hit in Russia.


Then, in 2002, when it seemed he had no chance to please the new generation - he released the hit song "Confessa", which was enthusiastically received not only by dads and moms, but also by the MTV generation! This song is very popular in Russia.




4. Perform song at the Eurovision Song Contest

One word: Måneskin!

Yes, there were others, such as Il Volo, who were loved by Dmitry Aliev and followed by all the juniors.


We remember this guy with accidental karma and another who was critically short of cash, a soldi, to fix his relationship with his dad.
But Måneskin are the first to really get popular after Eurovision. We must love freaks here too.



5. To do something that no one has done before, to show off

We keep talking about freaks - remember Vanilla Sky? Those weird guys who danced in tutus to "Umbrella" and it was funnier than the original. We love that kind of stuff and appreciate the Italian sense of humor. If you make a Russian laugh, you'll get on the charts.


They also sing so sweetly in Russian, heh!

Thus, I conclude my short course on the history of Italian music in Russia in the 20th-21st centuries. On the whole, Italians are now as popular with us as any other Europeans, but there is a whole layer of nostalgic memories that makes us closer.

And, of course, good music is always good music, we love good music.
 
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he should be in his late 70 early 80? anyway they broke up because he was cheating on her with another woman (maybe the Ricchi e Poveri blone singer? i should ask my mom :LOL: )
I understand that he's through a breakup for a long time ago. I mean, his health now, he's not young anymore :ROFLMAO:
 
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