Jelizaveta Zukova & Martin Bidar
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Liza and Martin will be making their season debut today at the Nebelhorn Trophy.
The Pairs SP is due to start at 19:00:00 CEST (17:00:00 GMT / 18:00:00 BST / 22:00:00 YEKT). So 12 hours from now.
Liza and Martin will be the 6th partnership to start. So, second partnership in Group 2 (and second partnership after the resurfacing).
The Group 2 Warm-Up is due to start at 19:48:00 CEST (17:48:00 GMT / 18:48:00 BST / 22:48:00 YEKT). So 12h 48m from now.
Liza and Martin are due to start at 20:01:30 CEST (18:01:30 GMT / 19:01:30 BST / 23:01:30 YEKT). So 13h 1m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
Here is the link for the livestream:
https://sportdeutschland.tv/deutsche-eislauf-union/nebelhorn-trophy-2022-tag-1
Here is the Time Schedule:
http://www.deu-event.de/results/Neb...----------QUAL000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf
And here is the live scoring:
http://www.deu-event.de/results/Nebelhorn_2022/CSGER2022/SEG005.htm
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!!
CaroLiza_fan
The Pairs SP is due to start at 19:00:00 CEST (17:00:00 GMT / 18:00:00 BST / 22:00:00 YEKT). So 12 hours from now.
Liza and Martin will be the 6th partnership to start. So, second partnership in Group 2 (and second partnership after the resurfacing).
The Group 2 Warm-Up is due to start at 19:48:00 CEST (17:48:00 GMT / 18:48:00 BST / 22:48:00 YEKT). So 12h 48m from now.
Liza and Martin are due to start at 20:01:30 CEST (18:01:30 GMT / 19:01:30 BST / 23:01:30 YEKT). So 13h 1m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
Here is the link for the livestream:
https://sportdeutschland.tv/deutsche-eislauf-union/nebelhorn-trophy-2022-tag-1
Here is the Time Schedule:
http://www.deu-event.de/results/Neb...----------QUAL000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf
And here is the live scoring:
http://www.deu-event.de/results/Nebelhorn_2022/CSGER2022/SEG005.htm
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!! CaroLiza_fan
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Nebelhorn Trophy Pairs SP: Results; Protocols
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Liza and Martin finished 9th out of 12 in the SP, with a score of 49.67.
Here is what I wrote in the competition thread at the time:
Analysis to be edited in some time (I've too much to do this morning)
Liza and Martin are currently 2.40 points behind 8th position, Anna VALESI / Manuel PIAZZA (ITA), and 1.24 points ahead of 10th position, Oceane PIEGAD / Denys STREKALIN (FRA). They are all part of a bigger group where 6th position to 11th position are covered by 6.47 points. Camille MENDOZA / Pavel KOVALEV (FRA) in 6th position are 4.89 points ahead of Liza and Martin, while Miyu YUNOKI / Shoya ICHIHASHI (JPN) in 11th position are 1.58 points behind Martin and Liza.
With being in the middle of a large group, Liza and Martin are well poised to move up the standings if they have a good Free Skate. Unfortunately, they are also well poised to slip down the standings if they don't.
So let's hope that they do have a good skate today.
WELL DONE!!!
The Pairs FS is due to start at 19:30:00 CEST (17:30:00 GMT / 18:30:00 BST). So 13 hours from now.
Liza and Martin will be the 4th partnership to start. So, fourth and last partnership to go in Group 1.
The Group 1 Warm-Up is due to start at 19:30:00 CEST (17:30:00 GMT / 18:30:00 BST). So 13 hours from now.
Liza and Martin are due to start at 20:00:00 CEST (18:00:00 GMT / 19:00:00 BST). So 13h 30m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
Here is the link for the livestream:
https://sportdeutschland.tv/deutsche-eislauf-union/nebelhorn-trophy-2022-tag-2
Here is the Time Schedule:
http://www.deu-event.de/results/Neb...----------FNL-000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf
And here is the live scoring:
http://www.deu-event.de/results/Nebelhorn_2022/CSGER2022/SEG006.htm
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!!
CaroLiza_fan
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Liza and Martin finished 9th out of 12 in the SP, with a score of 49.67.
Here is what I wrote in the competition thread at the time:
Phew. It wasn't the song that came into my head when I heard the title that Michail read out! ("Boom Boom Boom" by the Outhere Brothers). But, he was again giving us out-of-date information, as "Boom Boom" by 2Wei was their music last season
Hadn't heard this song before, but it is perfect for skating to.
That was really good! Sure, there were a few mistakes, but nothing that can't be ironed out as the season goes on.
I like this programme already. And when it is done clean, it will be even better!
WELL DONE!!!
CaroLiza_fan
Hadn't heard this song before, but it is perfect for skating to.
That was really good! Sure, there were a few mistakes, but nothing that can't be ironed out as the season goes on.
I like this programme already. And when it is done clean, it will be even better!
WELL DONE!!! CaroLiza_fan
Analysis to be edited in some time (I've too much to do this morning)
Liza and Martin are currently 2.40 points behind 8th position, Anna VALESI / Manuel PIAZZA (ITA), and 1.24 points ahead of 10th position, Oceane PIEGAD / Denys STREKALIN (FRA). They are all part of a bigger group where 6th position to 11th position are covered by 6.47 points. Camille MENDOZA / Pavel KOVALEV (FRA) in 6th position are 4.89 points ahead of Liza and Martin, while Miyu YUNOKI / Shoya ICHIHASHI (JPN) in 11th position are 1.58 points behind Martin and Liza.
With being in the middle of a large group, Liza and Martin are well poised to move up the standings if they have a good Free Skate. Unfortunately, they are also well poised to slip down the standings if they don't.
So let's hope that they do have a good skate today.
WELL DONE!!! The Pairs FS is due to start at 19:30:00 CEST (17:30:00 GMT / 18:30:00 BST). So 13 hours from now.
Liza and Martin will be the 4th partnership to start. So, fourth and last partnership to go in Group 1.
The Group 1 Warm-Up is due to start at 19:30:00 CEST (17:30:00 GMT / 18:30:00 BST). So 13 hours from now.
Liza and Martin are due to start at 20:00:00 CEST (18:00:00 GMT / 19:00:00 BST). So 13h 30m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
Here is the link for the livestream:
https://sportdeutschland.tv/deutsche-eislauf-union/nebelhorn-trophy-2022-tag-2
Here is the Time Schedule:
http://www.deu-event.de/results/Neb...----------FNL-000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf
And here is the live scoring:
http://www.deu-event.de/results/Nebelhorn_2022/CSGER2022/SEG006.htm
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!! CaroLiza_fan
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Nebelhorn Trophy Senior Pairs FS: Results; Protocols
Nebelhorn Trophy Senior Pairs: Results
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHbUkDl-shI
Liza and Martin finished 8th out of 12 in the FS, with a score of 97.65. This meant that they climbed to 8th place overall, with a score of 147.32.
Firstly, I want to apologise that this is being posted long after the competition was held. I was not able to watch the Pairs FS Live, and only got back to watch it on Monday afternoon. However, I haven't had a chance until now to write the report.
I really enjoyed this programme. And after watching the segment, I was baffled as to why they were not higher in terms of both position and score. Because I thought they did better than some of the partnerships that finished ahead of them in the FS.
So, perhaps the Protocols will explain it.
The first two elements, the Triple Twist and the Double Toe, looked perfectly fine to me. But, they both got minus GOE, and most of the marks from the Judges were minus too. (The Double Toe got a couple of +1's). Judge 7 even gave them -4 for the Twist, but she was consistently marking lower than the other Judges.
I did spot a problem with the third element, though. When they were doing their Triple Salchow-Half Loop-Double Salchow combination, Martin did not turn as many times as Liza. In fact, to me, it looked like he missed the Half Loop completely, only doing the Salchows. And although she did the Half Loop, it did not look at all pretty. The protocols say that the Triple Salchow was landed on the quarter, so I assume that was refering to Liza, and that that is why the next part of the combination looked awkward for her. Judge 3 gave them 0, but everything else was negative.
The next element, the Group 5 Step In Lasso Lift, looked really good. Apart from the 0 from Judge 2, everything was positive. However, Liza didn't land the Triple Lutz Throw, and fell. Unsurprisingly, this was the costliest element, getting -2.65 in GOE and -5's from all the Judges.
The Choreographic Sequence looked good and, apart from a 0 from Judge 1, everything was positive. It's hard to tell from the camera angle, but Liza may have had a two-footed landing on the Double Loop that followed. So, that might explain why, apart from a 0 from Judge 1, everything was negative.
The Reverse Lasso Lift was a real mixed bag from the Judges, with three +1's, one -1, two -2's, and a -4 from Judge 2. At first watch, it looked really good. But after re-watching it a couple of times, I noticed that Martin had a bit of difficulty at the start of lifting her up. And I am sure that the angles they were looking at it from would have meant that some Judges would have seen this, and some Judges would not. Hence the variety of marks.
The rest of the programme went well, with nearly everything positive. The only exceptions being a 0 from Judge 3 on the Group 3 Lift, and a -2 from Judge 4 on the Back Outside Death Spiral.
Liza and Martin finished the Free Skate 1.24 points behind 7th position, Anna VALESI / Manuel PIAZZA (ITA), and 3.68 points ahead of 9th position, Nika OSIPOVA / Dmitry EPSTEIN (NED). Overall, they finished 3.64 points behind 7th position, Valesi / Piazza, and 1.26 points ahead of 9th position, Osipova / Epstein.
All in all, I think Liza and Martin have two very good programmes this year. And that once they go clean, they will do very well.
Can't wait to see that happen!
WELL DONE!!!
CaroLiza_fan
Nebelhorn Trophy Senior Pairs: Results
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHbUkDl-shI
Liza and Martin finished 8th out of 12 in the FS, with a score of 97.65. This meant that they climbed to 8th place overall, with a score of 147.32.
Firstly, I want to apologise that this is being posted long after the competition was held. I was not able to watch the Pairs FS Live, and only got back to watch it on Monday afternoon. However, I haven't had a chance until now to write the report.
I really enjoyed this programme. And after watching the segment, I was baffled as to why they were not higher in terms of both position and score. Because I thought they did better than some of the partnerships that finished ahead of them in the FS.
So, perhaps the Protocols will explain it.
The first two elements, the Triple Twist and the Double Toe, looked perfectly fine to me. But, they both got minus GOE, and most of the marks from the Judges were minus too. (The Double Toe got a couple of +1's). Judge 7 even gave them -4 for the Twist, but she was consistently marking lower than the other Judges.
I did spot a problem with the third element, though. When they were doing their Triple Salchow-Half Loop-Double Salchow combination, Martin did not turn as many times as Liza. In fact, to me, it looked like he missed the Half Loop completely, only doing the Salchows. And although she did the Half Loop, it did not look at all pretty. The protocols say that the Triple Salchow was landed on the quarter, so I assume that was refering to Liza, and that that is why the next part of the combination looked awkward for her. Judge 3 gave them 0, but everything else was negative.
The next element, the Group 5 Step In Lasso Lift, looked really good. Apart from the 0 from Judge 2, everything was positive. However, Liza didn't land the Triple Lutz Throw, and fell. Unsurprisingly, this was the costliest element, getting -2.65 in GOE and -5's from all the Judges.
The Choreographic Sequence looked good and, apart from a 0 from Judge 1, everything was positive. It's hard to tell from the camera angle, but Liza may have had a two-footed landing on the Double Loop that followed. So, that might explain why, apart from a 0 from Judge 1, everything was negative.
The Reverse Lasso Lift was a real mixed bag from the Judges, with three +1's, one -1, two -2's, and a -4 from Judge 2. At first watch, it looked really good. But after re-watching it a couple of times, I noticed that Martin had a bit of difficulty at the start of lifting her up. And I am sure that the angles they were looking at it from would have meant that some Judges would have seen this, and some Judges would not. Hence the variety of marks.
The rest of the programme went well, with nearly everything positive. The only exceptions being a 0 from Judge 3 on the Group 3 Lift, and a -2 from Judge 4 on the Back Outside Death Spiral.
Liza and Martin finished the Free Skate 1.24 points behind 7th position, Anna VALESI / Manuel PIAZZA (ITA), and 3.68 points ahead of 9th position, Nika OSIPOVA / Dmitry EPSTEIN (NED). Overall, they finished 3.64 points behind 7th position, Valesi / Piazza, and 1.26 points ahead of 9th position, Osipova / Epstein.
All in all, I think Liza and Martin have two very good programmes this year. And that once they go clean, they will do very well.
Can't wait to see that happen!
WELL DONE!!! CaroLiza_fan
I know this is a fan thread but reading your post one would get an impression that they skated clean (except of the fall on the triple Lutz throw) and that they were not adequately rewarded considering what they have presented on the ice. If we have just a tiny bit of reality, in addition to the fall on the throw lutz, they also doubled the solo toe loop jump and doubled the loop throw, and their death spiral was only level two. Their triple twist was also only level 1. And their jump combination 3S-oiler-2S is not very senior-ish either. Many juniors now do triple-oiler-triple. What they have done, that’s a pretty simple content, not really competitive even in juniors. I think considering their technical content, they were pretty lucky that they were marked as high as they were.Nebelhorn Trophy Senior Pairs FS: Results; Protocols
Nebelhorn Trophy Senior Pairs: Results
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHbUkDl-shI
Liza and Martin finished 8th out of 12 in the FS, with a score of 97.65. This meant that they climbed to 8th place overall, with a score of 147.32.
Firstly, I want to apologise that this is being posted long after the competition was held. I was not able to watch the Pairs FS Live, and only got back to watch it on Monday afternoon. However, I haven't had a chance until now to write the report.
I really enjoyed this programme. And after watching the segment, I was baffled as to why they were not higher in terms of both position and score. Because I thought they did better than some of the partnerships that finished ahead of them in the FS.
So, perhaps the Protocols will explain it.
The first two elements, the Triple Twist and the Double Toe, looked perfectly fine to me. But, they both got minus GOE, and most of the marks from the Judges were minus too. (The Double Toe got a couple of +1's). Judge 7 even gave them -4 for the Twist, but she was consistently marking lower than the other Judges.
I did spot a problem with the third element, though. When they were doing their Triple Salchow-Half Loop-Double Salchow combination, Martin did not turn as many times as Liza. In fact, to me, it looked like he missed the Half Loop completely, only doing the Salchows. And although she did the Half Loop, it did not look at all pretty. The protocols say that the Triple Salchow was landed on the quarter, so I assume that was refering to Liza, and that that is why the next part of the combination looked awkward for her. Judge 3 gave them 0, but everything else was negative.
The next element, the Group 5 Step In Lasso Lift, looked really good. Apart from the 0 from Judge 2, everything was positive. However, Liza didn't land the Triple Lutz Throw, and fell. Unsurprisingly, this was the costliest element, getting -2.65 in GOE and -5's from all the Judges.
The Choreographic Sequence looked good and, apart from a 0 from Judge 1, everything was positive. It's hard to tell from the camera angle, but Liza may have had a two-footed landing on the Double Loop that followed. So, that might explain why, apart from a 0 from Judge 1, everything was negative.
The Reverse Lasso Lift was a real mixed bag from the Judges, with three +1's, one -1, two -2's, and a -4 from Judge 2. At first watch, it looked really good. But after re-watching it a couple of times, I noticed that Martin had a bit of difficulty at the start of lifting her up. And I am sure that the angles they were looking at it from would have meant that some Judges would have seen this, and some Judges would not. Hence the variety of marks.
The rest of the programme went well, with nearly everything positive. The only exceptions being a 0 from Judge 3 on the Group 3 Lift, and a -2 from Judge 4 on the Back Outside Death Spiral.
Liza and Martin finished the Free Skate 1.24 points behind 7th position, Anna VALESI / Manuel PIAZZA (ITA), and 3.68 points ahead of 9th position, Nika OSIPOVA / Dmitry EPSTEIN (NED). Overall, they finished 3.64 points behind 7th position, Valesi / Piazza, and 1.26 points ahead of 9th position, Osipova / Epstein.
All in all, I think Liza and Martin have two very good programmes this year. And that once they go clean, they will do very well.
Can't wait to see that happen!
CaroLiza_fan
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Liza and Martin will be competing at Skate Canada tonight.
The Pairs SP is due to start at 18:45:00 EDT Friday (22:45:00 GMT Friday / 23:45:00 BST Friday / 00:45:00 CEST Saturday / 03:45:00 YEKT Saturday). So 11 hours from now.
Liza and Martin will be the 1st partnership to start. So, first partnership in Group 1.
The Group 1 Warm-Up is due to start at 18:45:00 EDT Friday (22:45:00 GMT Friday / 23:45:00 BST Friday / 00:45:00 CEST Saturday / 03:45:00 YEKT Saturday). So 11 hours from now.
Liza and Martin are due to start at 18:52:30 EDT Friday (22:52:30 GMT Friday / 23:52:30 BST Friday / 00:52:30 CEST Saturday / 03:52:30 YEKT Saturday). So 11h 7m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
Here is the link for the World Feed coverage on the ISU YouTube Channel (starts in 11 hours from now):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llt76uG10Tw
Here is the link for the World Feed coverage on the Eurosport Player (starts in 10h 55m from now):
https://www.eurosportplayer.com/videos/eurosport/grand-prix-2759041
Here is the link for the World Feed coverage on Discovery+ UK (starts in 10h 55m from now):
https://www.discoveryplus.com/gb/video/sport/dplus-sport-dplus-sport-sport/grand-prix-3539445
Here is the Time Schedule:
https://results.isu.org/results/sea...----------QUAL000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf
And here is the live scoring:
https://results.isu.org/results/season2223/gpcan2022/SEG005.htm
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!!
CaroLiza_fan
The Pairs SP is due to start at 18:45:00 EDT Friday (22:45:00 GMT Friday / 23:45:00 BST Friday / 00:45:00 CEST Saturday / 03:45:00 YEKT Saturday). So 11 hours from now.
Liza and Martin will be the 1st partnership to start. So, first partnership in Group 1.
The Group 1 Warm-Up is due to start at 18:45:00 EDT Friday (22:45:00 GMT Friday / 23:45:00 BST Friday / 00:45:00 CEST Saturday / 03:45:00 YEKT Saturday). So 11 hours from now.
Liza and Martin are due to start at 18:52:30 EDT Friday (22:52:30 GMT Friday / 23:52:30 BST Friday / 00:52:30 CEST Saturday / 03:52:30 YEKT Saturday). So 11h 7m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
Here is the link for the World Feed coverage on the ISU YouTube Channel (starts in 11 hours from now):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llt76uG10Tw
Here is the link for the World Feed coverage on the Eurosport Player (starts in 10h 55m from now):
https://www.eurosportplayer.com/videos/eurosport/grand-prix-2759041
Here is the link for the World Feed coverage on Discovery+ UK (starts in 10h 55m from now):
https://www.discoveryplus.com/gb/video/sport/dplus-sport-dplus-sport-sport/grand-prix-3539445
Here is the Time Schedule:
https://results.isu.org/results/sea...----------QUAL000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf
And here is the live scoring:
https://results.isu.org/results/season2223/gpcan2022/SEG005.htm
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!! CaroLiza_fan
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Skate Canada Pairs SP: Results; Protocols
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMUZ3RhQk_c
Liza and Martin finished 6th out of 8 in the SP, with a score of 52.84.
Analysis to be edited in when I get the chance to watch the video.
WELL DONE!!!
The Pairs FS is due to start at 18:00:00 EDT Saturday (22:00:00 GMT Saturday / 23:00:00 BST Saturday / 00:00:00 CEST Sunday / 03:00:00 YEKT Sunday). So 12 hours from now.
Liza and Martin will be the 3rd partnership to start. So, third and penultimate partnership in Group 1.
The Group 1 Warm-Up is due to start at 18:00:00 EDT Saturday (22:00:00 GMT Saturday / 23:00:00 BST Saturday / 00:00:00 CEST Sunday / 03:00:00 YEKT Sunday). So 12 hours from now.
Liza and Martin are due to start at 18:23:10 EDT Saturday (22:23:10 GMT Saturday / 23:23:10 BST Saturday / 00:23:10 CEST Sunday / 03:23:10 YEKT Sunday). So 12h 23m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
Here is the link for the World Feed coverage on the ISU YouTube Channel (starts in 12 hours from now):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCB_KshckDU
Here is the link for the World Feed coverage on the Eurosport Player (starts in 11h 55m from now):
[Link to be edited in after it becomes available]
Here is the link for the World Feed coverage on Discovery+ UK (starts in 11h 55m from now):
https://www.discoveryplus.com/gb/video/sport/dplus-sport-dplus-sport-sport/grand-prix-3201255
Here is the Time Schedule:
https://results.isu.org/results/sea...----------FNL-000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf
And here is the live scoring:
https://results.isu.org/results/season2223/gpcan2022/SEG006.htm
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!!
CaroLiza_fan
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMUZ3RhQk_c
Liza and Martin finished 6th out of 8 in the SP, with a score of 52.84.
Analysis to be edited in when I get the chance to watch the video.
WELL DONE!!! The Pairs FS is due to start at 18:00:00 EDT Saturday (22:00:00 GMT Saturday / 23:00:00 BST Saturday / 00:00:00 CEST Sunday / 03:00:00 YEKT Sunday). So 12 hours from now.
Liza and Martin will be the 3rd partnership to start. So, third and penultimate partnership in Group 1.
The Group 1 Warm-Up is due to start at 18:00:00 EDT Saturday (22:00:00 GMT Saturday / 23:00:00 BST Saturday / 00:00:00 CEST Sunday / 03:00:00 YEKT Sunday). So 12 hours from now.
Liza and Martin are due to start at 18:23:10 EDT Saturday (22:23:10 GMT Saturday / 23:23:10 BST Saturday / 00:23:10 CEST Sunday / 03:23:10 YEKT Sunday). So 12h 23m from now.
But, those times may change if somebody that is due on before them withdraws.
Here is the link for the World Feed coverage on the ISU YouTube Channel (starts in 12 hours from now):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCB_KshckDU
Here is the link for the World Feed coverage on the Eurosport Player (starts in 11h 55m from now):
[Link to be edited in after it becomes available]
Here is the link for the World Feed coverage on Discovery+ UK (starts in 11h 55m from now):
https://www.discoveryplus.com/gb/video/sport/dplus-sport-dplus-sport-sport/grand-prix-3201255
Here is the Time Schedule:
https://results.isu.org/results/sea...----------FNL-000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf
And here is the live scoring:
https://results.isu.org/results/season2223/gpcan2022/SEG006.htm
Hope this helps
ALL THE BEST!!! CaroLiza_fan
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Sad news. Liza has ended the partnership for family reasons. She said: "I am happy to represent the Czech Republic and I would like to express a big thank you for all the support I have always received. I don't want to say goodbye and it's possible that our paths will cross again." 
https://www.instagram.com/p/CmeQioyqbpt/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
https://www.instagram.com/p/CmeQioyqbpt/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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Sad news. Liza has ended the partnership for family reasons. She said: "I am happy to represent the Czech Republic and I would like to express a big thank you for all the support I have always received. I don't want to say goodbye and it's possible that our paths will cross again."
https://www.instagram.com/p/CmeQioyqbpt/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
I kinda had a feeling that was coming when they didn't compete at 4 Nationals last week.
They were a likable and promising partnership, and have just been so unfortunate with the way things beyond their control have played out.
I wish both Liza and Martin all the best for the future, and hope it is not long until we see them back competing.
CaroLiza_fan
