Huh, I'd say it's pretty en vogue to criticize all of their skating amongst figure skating fans...
Yes it is...the fashion now
Huh, I'd say it's pretty en vogue to criticize all of their skating amongst figure skating fans...
Nobunari Oda -curse his inability to count jumps. He is still a great skater!!!
Ilia Klimkin - such a creative, interesting skater; such bad luck in his personal life, and to be competing in the shadow of Plushy, Abt and Yagudin
Judy Blumberg & Michael Seibert
Madison Chock & Evan Bates - Sinead Kerr said that if others were getting +5 for their lifts Maddy and Evan should be getting a lot more. I agree!
Tonya Harding
Yes!
While I can understand the ISU’s rationalization behind the creation of the Zayak rule, it also came off as a direct snub of Elaine’s jumping skills and overall talent. In a way, it blacklisted her, and her career was never the same afterwards.
I like Evgenia now that she is older. Honestly I was a stick too at her age but I did say her legs bothered me.i think she has a mature style now that is nicer to watch than the frenetic Alina. I honestly think Peyong podium should be reversed. Osmond had the best program and PCS by far. Backloading it seems got Alina her medals. I just don’t enjoy what she does out there. She could skate beautifully and show off lines and edges. Ladies skating is awful because of the whacko scoring system. Several skaters are far more special. Every second a sloppy fast move. Anyway I think Mariah Bell was great at worlds. The scoring seemed to be an Eteri festival. Not a fan. Sorry not sorry.
Anyway Meghan Duhamel is a great athlete. No she was never gonna be Katia or Savchenko. But it is sport over art these days by far. Carolina Kostner in 2014 was to die for. 2018 she was overscored. Only she and Chan could bomb and still get huge PCS. The scoring system keeps changing. But I understand. I was happy to see the little Kazakh finally show her athletic prowess but she was Overscored. Hey I have never seen her smile before. Her career has finally paid off.
I guess the question is IS -is Eteri overrated and does she have some secret pull with the judges and the federations? Her secret is accept nothing but all out execution of the programs and drill the jumps till these tiny girls drop. I am not a fan of her choreographers. So I think it is fine to say who is underrated and overrated. It is opinion but if you get enough responses certain skaters stand out. So maybe we can be objective. I agree with much I have read here. I am just beginning to see that Vincent can be more than a quadster. He has potential artistically but his quads are what puts him on the scene. His worlds was the best I have seen him skate and kudos to him. He seems so serious. He will never be Hanyu or Shoma or even Nathan for me but he has made great strides. He is much improved just from beginning to end of last season.
Eteri doesn't have some magic or dirt over the Fed and/or the judges; she's pretty forward thinking and not being stagnate with her up and comers only doing the status quo of what's winning on the current senior circuit. look at her big name/most successful skaters (looking at what they did as seniors): Lipnitskaia - packaged very well for the Olympics and had her remarkably consistent and with the exception of Mao (1 skater, who I don't feel had very good success rate with triple axel); then came Evgenia Med. - tano'd everything when it was bullet point for extra points; then came Alina Z. who backloaded everything for the bonus points, even now Alina the crazy busy programs to get bonus points for all the transitions. Now with her up and coming seniors of Anna S. and Trusova - they are bringing competition ready quads.
1) Elizaveta Nugumanova - A victim of domestic judging. To this day i still believe she is the most artistic russian lady: best posture, best skating skills (both posture and skating skills better than any Tutberidze skater, i'm sorry, she is a better "ballerina" than Zagitova ever was), she holds her movements like spirals, she has great twizzles, she has a great charisma, she loves to be on the ice and skates to the music. Her spins are amazing too.
Yes she doesn't have the best lutz or flip technique, but so it was Lipnitskaya or Medvedeva or Konstantinova or Sotnikova and they all still got their chances.
She has never had a chance to compete at senior international events because judging at domestic competitions is all about the technical contents and consistency and reputation.
It's so sad and frustrating because in every other country in the world she would be praised much much more for her artistry.
I still hope she can find a way but that possibility becomes more and more uncertain every year, if i was her i'd work on 3A, or really spend all your money go abroad, compete for USA and have your Sasha Cohen moment, or switch to Ice Dance or Pairs cause the skills are all there.
Gala Events
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuOhe4aoK1o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTB5R_Ccack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND3FmbFOrDs
Swan Lake (a piece suggested by Miki Ando)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c3YSpCWL9I
Nutcracker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R79i774lvPA
La La Land
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNhXE38Q7J0
2) Deniss Vasiljevs - he's getting a little lost in the shuffle due to illness but the previous season also i think he never got the marks he deserved due to the lack of quads. He should get Jason Brown's level of PCS in my opinion, his Recondita Armonia's SP is one of the best programs i've seen from the men in years.
3) Andrew Torgashev - again great great artist who deserves better mark but unfortunately he's super inconsistent.
4) Alexander Petrov - he had 2-3 seasons where he was really consistent and again he had very good skating skills but never rewarded for it.
5) Akiko Suzuki - Beautiful skater who never had her moment for a gold medal at Worlds or GPF unfortunately, always outshadowed by others (Yuna, Mao, Miki, Carolina).
Not exactly underrated but i hope their careers in figure skating continue to grow because they deserve better
Matteo Rizzo
Kevin Aymoz
Daniel Grassl
Nugumanova always had textbook lutzes and flips, she has the technique!
The posture, on contrary, doesn’t look good to me, she hunches a lot.
She’s very artistic though, and very talented.
I think she became a victim of puberty possibly, I noticed she started popping her jumps more, but maybe I’m wrong and it’s just psychological.
But I hope she can comeback, she was landing very nice Lutz-loops in practices and some competitions.
Agree about Matteo, but he’s been gaining momentum lately, now he needs to sustain it and he’ll get the marks
Maybe you didn't read GS threads enough during olympic season. There were a lot of talk about her imo.Well, I do agree that Kaeatlyn was underrated. I've never been interested in ladies fs so much, but judging fom the distance even with her amazing results there were always discussions about Russian ladies (whoever was on the top there), discussions about Japanese ladies whether they can keep up with them and than there was Carolina. Compared to them I didn't hear about Kaetlyn almost at all which is a shame.
For me...
1. Kaetlyn Osmond (imo, the most complete ladies skater of her generation)
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Lol, Osmond among the most underrated skaters
The thread:
"Name your top five underrated skaters, past or present."
Mine are Hanyu, Plushenko, Yagudin, Fernandez and Chen