I apologize for a stupid question - I thought that significant part of prize money and salary received for shows goes to her coaching team or is it not true anymore?
Nobody knows for sure, most of it comes from interviews from here and there. I think it's standard practice that coaches/choreographers get a percentage of competition winnings. As far as shows, I think Orser in an interview when Med came to him was surprised that Eteri and staff got a percentage of the show money. He said he doesn't receive any of Yuzuru or Javier's show earnings.
On the other hand he collects 100+ bucks per hour.
While true the government doesn’t pay him anything and a salary of $208000 before taxes, likely closer to $150000 after taxes is not huge for a Canadian salary.
I'm talking about skater-coach finantial relations, what is the politics of canadian government in sport is not my concern.
Nobody knows for sure, most of it comes from interviews from here and there. I think it's standard practice that coaches/choreographers get a percentage of competition winnings. As far as shows, I think Orser in an interview when Med came to him was surprised that Eteri and staff got a percentage of the show money. He said he doesn't receive any of Yuzuru or Javier's show earnings.
Can I get a proof link to that?
Orser said he discussed the issue of finances with Medvedeva and her mother in Seoul. He said he charges an hourly rate and takes no percentage of a skater’s earnings. In 2010, Orser told me his rate was $110 per hour; he declined to reveal the current rate, saying, it “has gone up, but not much.”
Maybe in Europe, where you are in particular, $100 is exorbitant. In North America, at least where I am, that's not unconscionable.
Europe is not one country.
Brian charges per hour and does not take a cut from Zhenya's income. Zhenya's former coaches were paid by the RusFed (same as everyone in Russia) and then takes a cut (I may be wrong, but was it around 30%? There was an Averbukh interview earlier this year, I think). I do not see anything controversial about stating those things as they are.
In general terms, $100 per hour is not really a lot for lessons. Maybe there's someone here who takes lessons in Canada or in the U.S., who can shed light on the going rate. I pay for lessons (not figure skating) per hour, and its even more than that (the teacher is not even of Brian Orser's caliber). Maybe in Europe, where you are in particular, $100 is exorbitant. In North America, at least where I am, that's not unconscionable.
Neither is North America. Where did I say Europe is a country?
Neither I said you said it. I made a statement.
Needlessly, because it is irrelevant.
Very roughly, average income per year is 51 000 in Canada and somewhere around 60 000 in USA (but there is wide range below and up, esp. in USA). Hypothetically, if you are a Canadian, you can buy 510 training hours of training per year (about 1.5 hour a day) in Canada and 600 hours per year (little below 2 hours a day) in USA if you spent all the money for the training. Of course I'm neglecting weekends etc. (and also the prices can be higher due to inflation), but that's only for basic orientation. That doesn't look like much of a bussiness, when you consider that you have to spend something on yourself, family etc. In complete family, at least one full income must be probably spent for full training and yet it still won't be that much hours, and I'm not talking about incomplete families, families with lower income etc., when you want to hire top coach like that.
But again I'm speaking about this. You pay this money like this 100+ bucks per hour without even reaching some levelof success, that's what you have to invest on whatever skater you are. While, in the other model, you pay significantly less per hour, but when you are invited to an ice show, it means you are somehow succesful, you've reached some level of abilities, won something or so. And you've reached it with your coach, who does not charge high for an hour like in the previous model. In this model if you do not reach some high level, you are probably not invited to a show and therefore you have no income from which you would pay some share to a coach. Only those who are succesful do that. This is of course understandable, because with the charga like in the previous model very small number of parents could afford a coach whose hour charge is 100 $. And, let's not deny it, this model is the one that is succesful now
What is irrelevant? 100 $ in Switzerland maybe not enough for a regular steak and 100 $ in some other country in Europe might be a week salary.
I don't know what you are fighting for. I did say there is nothing controversial about it. Brian should be able to command an arrangement he finds fair. So should Eteri. Whether skaters agree it to it is their business.
Brian charges per hour and does not take a cut from Zhenya's income. Zhenya's former coaches were paid by the RusFed (same as everyone in Russia) and then takes a cut (I may be wrong, but was it around 30%? There was an Averbukh interview earlier this year, I think, where that was mentioned.). I do not see anything controversial about stating those things as they are.
In general terms, $100 per hour is not really a lot for lessons. Maybe there's someone here who takes lessons in Canada or in the U.S., who can shed light on the going rate. I pay for lessons (not figure skating) per hour, and its even more than that (the teacher (in his field) is not even of Brian Orser's caliber). Maybe in Europe, where you are in particular, $100 is exorbitant. In North America, at least where I am, that's not unconscionable.
I don't know what you are fighting for. I did say there is nothing controversial about it. Brian should be able to command an arrangement he finds fair. So should Eteri. Whether skaters agree it to it is their business.