So we are saying skaters will not do well this and that at the Olympic which will happen in the next 6 months based on their practice during summer when their stamina are at the lowest. Nice try.In the first case (I don't think he will go this route), the risk is 4Lz fall and 4T<<. In the 2nd case, the risk is 4T< or 4T<< and then he can no longer replace 3Lz with 3A. He sometimes under-rotates 4T. See here at the recent open practice. The 4T is more than 270 UR, if not 360, similar to his 4T 2015 GPF (he got away there).
Which will make the men's event super exciting. Can't wait to see how this season shakes out.
So we are saying skaters will not do well this and that at the Olympic which will happen in the next 6 months based on their practice during summer when their stamina are at the lowest. Nice try.
So we are saying skaters will not do well this and that at the Olympic which will happen in the next 6 months based on their practice during summer when their stamina are at the lowest. Nice try.
His lutz has given him issues in the past,
No 3A-4T?
How about waiting for several months until they settle down the layout and we will see how it's going by then.I don't think they're saying that. I think they're saying that he's more likely to go with the layout without the 4Z because of the risk it presents. His lutz has given him issues in the past, so I think it's super risky to try to put a 4Z in there, but obviously it creates room for a second triple axel. While it's gotten URs in the past, his 4T is pretty consistent for him - way moreso than his 4S.
How about waiting for several months until they settle down the layout and we will see how it's going by then.
The 3Lz is a good jump for Yuzuru. It was when he started messing with the quad that things got a tad dodgy, which isn't at all unusual.
I think his lutz technique has improved, but in the past he's leaned on it (compromising some of his 3Z+3T combos), and even fallen on it here and there. For a quad lutz, he would have to go straight up with vertical axis, and he doesn't always do that. And he himself says he prefers doing edge jumps. I'm sure he could do it, but I just don't think it'll be particularly reliable compared to his other quads/axels.
Anyone have that website that analyzes jump success rate/GOE for every top skater?
Skatedb.net is an amazing resource. It's mostly in Japanese but with enough English for most to be able to navigate. You can even toggle between all competitions which includes Nationals, or ISU only competitions. You can even compare total points gained for jumps/combinations across competitors.
I believe Skatedb.net has records for all senior competition, in Yuzuru's case his 3Lz (solo and combo) since 2010 is at 68.8% for ISU-only competitions according to the site.
Skatedb.net is an amazing resource. It's mostly in Japanese but with enough English for most to be able to navigate. You can even toggle between all competitions which includes Nationals, or ISU only competitions. You can even compare total points gained for jumps/combinations across competitors.
I believe Skatedb.net has records for all senior competition, in Yuzuru's case his 3Lz (solo and combo) since 2010 is at 68.8% for ISU-only competitions according to the site.
But I think those stats only count quads if they are at least << (or maybe <?), so quads that are popped into doubles aren't included.
But I think those stats only count quads if they are at least << (or maybe <?), so quads that are popped into doubles aren't included.
Well in Jin's case most of those -GOE ones were on the Junior Circuit (when judges are less inclined to give more GOE, especially with Jin having been a relative unknown, from China at that). If you look at the actual jumps the actual lutzes were pretty much fine. Only in one instance as a senior did he get negative GOE on his lutz, -0.40 at the 2015 GPF.
And yeah the DB doesn't take into account pops otherwise Chan would have a lower success rate on his 3A and Hanyu would have a lower success rate on his 4S.