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2018 Europeans Pairs FS

Kutien

Final Flight
Joined
Feb 28, 2007
Sorry for juding in Russia =(

1Evgenia TARASOVA / Vladimir MOROZOV RUS221.6051 video
2Ksenia STOLBOVA / Fedor KLIMOV RUS211.0132 video
3Natalia ZABIIAKO / Alexander ENBERT RUS210.1823 video
4Vanessa JAMES / Morgan CIPRES FRA210.1714 video
5Valentina MARCHEI / Ondrej HOTAREK ITA204.2045 video
6Nicole DELLA MONICA / Matteo GUARISE ITA192.3866 video
7Miriam ZIEGLER / Severin KIEFER AUT181.7577 video
8Annika HOCKE / Ruben BLOMMAERT GER170.2198 video
9Paige CONNERS / Evgeni KRASNOPOLSKI ISR163.55109 video
10Lola ESBRAT / Andrei NOVOSELOV FRA160.47810 video
11Laura BARQUERO / Aritz MAESTU ESP152.081111 video
12Lana PETRANOVIC / Antonio SOUZA-KORDEIRU CRO134.971312 video
13Ioulia CHTCHETININA / Mikhail AKULOV SUI130.091213 video
14Sofiya KARAGODINA / Semyon STEPANOV AZE117.951414 video
 

anyanka

Record Breaker
Joined
Jul 8, 2011
Sorry, but Russia wins the prize for the rudest crowds. Olympics and Worlds have been held in many countries but no where else do you hear "Ru-ssi -a" chanted before another country skates or the lack of applause if another country's skater skates well. Canada, imo, has the most knowledgable and courteous audiences.

Speaking as a Canadian ... there was 2013W pairs FS, when a clean D/R were placed 1.00 exactly behind S/S, and the crowd lustily booed. Aljona just shrugged and smiled in an embarrassed way. I was a little embarrassed at that too, to be honest.

I do take the compliment about Canadian audiences (thank you :clap:), but I myself think the Japanese are the most knowledgeable and courteous, especially 2014 worlds.
 

CanadianSkaterGuy

Record Breaker
Joined
Jan 25, 2013
Exactly! If they were scored correctly, J/C would be on the podium.

Yup... another thing: Z/E's 3T+2T+1L ... that should have been lower GOE... they were very obviously out of unison and they singled the loop. Same goes for the salchow where she clearly jumped and landed before him, and it was clearly an error (should have been -1's).
 

anyanka

Record Breaker
Joined
Jul 8, 2011
Conclusion. Oh Aljona. You have made the right decision to stay at home. It will be more fair at the Olympics because the Canadian and the Chinese judge will not support this Russian overscoring.

The German judge won't stand for it, either. Any American judges, BTW?
 

Andrea82

Medalist
Joined
Feb 16, 2014
Judge No.9 Mr. Anthony LEROY (France)

T/M

3S +2
3STh +3


S/K

3Tw1 +2
3T+2T +2
3STh +1

Z/E

3T+2T+1Lo 0
5RLi4 +1
5ALi4 +2

J/C

3Tw2 +1
2T+2T+1T -3
4Sth 0
3S +2
 

EdgeCall

Record Breaker
Joined
Mar 31, 2012
Tbh I am not sure if J/C were underscored in PCS. I have only seen part of what the Russians did and I did not see Z/E at all. But no matter how much I like J/C, this was a bad skate. Nothing really worked for them and I immediately wondered why. Botched elements, lack of sync, lack of energy, no real connection to the music, in short this was far from their best and not a performance to fight for euro gold, maybe not even for a medal. I also don't think the comparison to Sochi is correct because Yuna had an excellent skate. The same can hardly be said of J/C today. :(
 

CanadianSkaterGuy

Record Breaker
Joined
Jan 25, 2013
What....the hell happened??? :eek:

T/M skated well and got an easy win, even with crazy PCS it was very well deserved.

The French had a major error doubling the SBS jump, and had minor spin and lift issues.

The French were scored appropriately on PCS, I think. But the #2 and #3 Russians got way too generous PCS and GOE, putting the French in 4th when they really deserved silver.

TL:DR -- "It's RUSSIA!" #CarolLane
 

Hevari

Drivers start your engines!
On the Ice
Joined
Jan 20, 2014
The German judge won't stand for it, either. Any American judges, BTW?

German judge won't stand? ORLY? Open the scores from EC and look the marks of german judge Karin Ehrhard (Judge no.6 in free skate panel).... Absolutely pro-russian judging
 

Anyasnake

Record Breaker
Joined
Mar 28, 2016
The issue is not in PCS with J/C, it's the comparaison scoring of GOEs among the teams. Like a double standard.
 

CanadianSkaterGuy

Record Breaker
Joined
Jan 25, 2013
Tbh I am not sure if J/C were underscored in PCS. I have only seen part of what the Russians did and I did not see Z/E at all. But no matter how much I like J/C, this was a bad skate. Nothing really worked for them and I immediately wondered why. Botched elements, lack of sync, lack of energy, no real connection to the music, in short this was far from their best and not a performance to fight for euro gold, maybe not even for a medal. I also don't think the comparison to Sochi is correct because Yuna had an excellent skate. The same can hardly be said of J/C today. :(

Totally. This was far from worthy of Euro gold especially with T/M's skate. But it was worthy of silver. I actually would have had S/K (who had 3 obvious errors, including a fall... and that was just the FS) in 4th behind J/C 2nd and Z/E 3rd.
 

whatif

Medalist
Joined
Feb 20, 2014
German judge won't stand? ORLY? Open the scores from EC and look the marks of german judge Karin Ehrhard (Judge no.6 in free skate panel).... Absolutely pro-russian judging

I think you need to make up your mind with your conspiracy. LOL.
 

anyanka

Record Breaker
Joined
Jul 8, 2011
German judge won't stand? ORLY? Open the scores from EC and look the marks of german judge Karin Ehrhard (Judge no.6 in free skate panel).... Absolutely pro-russian judging

Yeah, but Aljona and Bruno didn't compete today ... :shrug:
 

anyanka

Record Breaker
Joined
Jul 8, 2011
I think I'll go party with Vale, Ondrej, Nicole and Matteo. The Italians likely have a really hot party going on right now. M/H in particular were fabulous.
 

CanadianSkaterGuy

Record Breaker
Joined
Jan 25, 2013
The issue is not in PCS with J/C, it's the comparaison scoring of GOEs among the teams. Like a double standard.

Agreed. They have a clean SBS 3S (Morgan was a bit wild on the landing but it was landed - maybe a 0 at worst... if they were Russian it would have been +1/2's across) and that gets -GOE... meanwhile, the Russians are two footing throws (T/M), having poor twist (S/K), Z/E having a scratchy loop landing and what looked like a touchdown (hard to see for sure).... and getting GOE gifts galore.
 

Nocturne

On the Ice
Joined
Jan 12, 2014
The German commentator didnt like Tarasovas dress because it reminded her of a bee and 2 minutes later my husband comes home, looks at the TV and says: "Why is she dressed as a bee?" xD
A different colour might have been better.

Regarding the results, T/M won fair and square but the French deserved silver. They had less disruptive errors than S/K and a lead over them and still lost out... :( I dont feel that's right
 

Andrea82

Medalist
Joined
Feb 16, 2014
Spots for 2019 Euros

Russia (1+2=3) 3 spots
France (4+10=14) 2 spots
Italy (5+6=11) 3 spots
Austria 2 spots
Germany 2 spots
Israel 2 spots
 
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