2017 JGP Brisbane Short Dance

[dorispulaski]

23 - 26 Aug 2017
Brisbane Australia

14:45 Friday, August 25th 2017, Local Time (AEST, UTC +10)

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https://www.timeanddate.com/worldcl...4&p7=352&p8=101&p9=31&p10=136&p11=286&p12=256

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Starting Order​

StN. Name Nation Warm-Up Group 1 1 Sofia POLISHCHUK / Alexander VAKHNOV RUS 2 Chloe LEWIS / Logan BYE USA 3 Elizaveta KHUDAIBERDIEVA / Nikita NAZAROV RUS 4 Eliana GROPMAN / Ian SOMERVILLE USA Warm-Up Group 2 5 Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA CAN 6 Jessica PALFREYMAN / Charlton DOHERTY AUS 7 Sasha FEAR / George WADDELL GBR 8 Joanne CHO / Jake MEYER AUS 9 Natalie D'ALESSANDRO / Bruce WADDELL CAN

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Entries in Ice Dance

No.	Name	Nation
1	Joanne CHO / Jake MEYER SD Rhumba: California Dreamin' performed by Jose Feliciano; Cha Cha: Smooth by Santana; choreo by Monica MacDonald FD Penny Dreadful (soundtrack) by Abel Korzeniowski; choreo by Monica MacDonald	AUS
2	Jessica PALFREYMAN / Charlton DOHERTY SD Cha Cha: Let's Get Loud; Rhumba; Samba; choreo by Mark Hanretty FD Romeo et Juliette (musical soundtrack) by Gerard Presgurovic, performed by Damien Sargue; choreo by Mark Hanretty	AUS
3	Natalie D'ALESSANDRO / Bruce WADDELL SD Cha Cha: Need to Know by Marc Anthony; Let's Get Loud by Jennifer Lopez, On the 6; choreo by R. Haguenauer FD Compilation 74: Your Song by Elton John, Bernie Taupin; Moulin Rouge Your Song perfomed by Ewan McGregor, Alessandro Safina; Original Arrangement/A Wonderful Love by Karl Hugo; choreo by R. Haguenauer	CAN
4	Marjorie LAJOIE / Zachary LAGHA SD Cha Cha: Bla Bla Bla Cha Cha Cha by Petty Booka;Samba: Tu Picadura by Gary Tesca; choreo by R. Haguenauer, G. Cournoyer, M.F. Dubreuil FD "Dream" by Imagine Dragons / "Nemesis" by Benjamin Clementine; choreo by R. Haguenauer, G. Cournoyer, M.F. Dubreuil	CAN
5	Sasha FEAR / George WADDELL SD Cha Cha: Amor performed by Ricky Martin; Rhumba: Lo So Che Finira performed by Gigi d'Alessia; Samba: Mujer Latina performed by Thalia; choreo by Romain Hagenauer FD Fix You by Coldplay; Viva La Vida by Coldplay; A Sky Full Of Stars by Coldplay; choreo by Romain Hagenauer	GBR
6	Elizaveta KHUDAIBERDIEVA / Nikita NAZAROV SD Cha Cha; Samba; choreo by Nikolai Nikonov FD Ghost (musical soundtrack) by Dave Stewart, Glen Ballard; choreo by Nikolai Nikonov	RUS
7	Sofia POLISHCHUK / Alexander VAKHNOV SD Cha Cha: Chilly Cha Cha performed by Jessica Jay; Samba: Hip Hip Chin Chin performed by Club des Belugas; choreo by Elena Borisova, Jonathan Guerreiro FD Black Swan by Clint Mansell; choreo by Elena Borisova, Jonathan Guerreiro	RUS
8	Eliana GROPMAN / Ian SOMERVILLE SD "Mas Que Suerte" by Beatriz Luengo, "De Hombre A Mujer" by Donato & Estéfano, "Samba Hey" by El General; choreo by Elena Novak, Ramil Sarkulov, Natalia Korikova FD "Zavedi Me" by Hari Mata Hare, "Nyah" by Hector Teixeira Pereira & Hans Zimmer, "No Ronees Das Conmigo - Tangos De La Reponpa" by Susi; choreo by Elena Novak, Ramil Sarkulov, Natalia Korikova	USA
9	Chloe LEWIS / Logan BYE SD "Carino" "Como Ama Una Mujer" & "On the Floor" (ft. Pitbull) by Jennifer Lopez; choreo by Igor Shpilband FD Final Breath by Coeur de Pirate; Place de Republique by Coeur de Pirate; Metal Gleamed In the Twilight by Coeur de Pirate; Final Breath by Coeur de Pirate; choreo by Igor Shpilband	USA

 

[Ender]

The line up of the nations makes me feel depressed.

 

[Sackie]

On paper Lajoie/Lagha have a great chance at winning here. But for some reason I don't think that will happen and they will probably end up 3rd behind a USA and RUS team. Hope I am wrong but....

 

[Ice Dance]

On paper Lajoie/Lagha have a great chance at winning here. But for some reason I don't think that will happen and they will probably end up 3rd behind a USA and RUS team. Hope I am wrong but....

Depends on what paper you are looking at. Polischuk & Vakhnov were ranked higher on the JGP last season. As far as I can recall, Lajoie & Lagha have not skated head-to-head with either of these teams since placing behind Lewis & Bye head-to-head at the 2016 Youth Olympic Games. Polischuk & Vakhnov and Lewis & Bye have met at least twice (JGP in Colorado Springs in 2015 and Lake Placid this summer). Both times Lewis & Bye defeated P&V in the short and P&V defeated L&B in the free. L&L probably came the farthest last season, but they had the farthest to come. L&B and P&V had far more depth at home, no sudden number one ranking for their countries, and no post season in which to prove themselves.

It's a great head-to-head, IMO. Precisely because any "paper" you look at doesn't give a clear picture of who the favorites are.

 

[Cherry blossom]

I like how short the list is tbh.

 

[tsuyoboogie]

SD start order: http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1718/jgpaus2017/SEG005.HTM

 

[Giselle]

Depends on what paper you are looking at. Polischuk & Vakhnov were ranked higher on the JGP last season. As far as I can recall, Lajoie & Lagha have not skated head-to-head with either of these teams since placing behind Lewis & Bye head-to-head at the 2016 Youth Olympic Games. Polischuk & Vakhnov and Lewis & Bye have met at least twice (JGP in Colorado Springs in 2015 and Lake Placid this summer). Both times Lewis & Bye defeated P&V in the short and P&V defeated L&B in the free. L&L probably came the farthest last season, but they had the farthest to come. L&B and P&V had far more depth at home, no sudden number one ranking for their countries, and no post season in which to prove themselves.

It's a great head-to-head, IMO. Precisely because any "paper" you look at doesn't give a clear picture of who the favorites are.

I agree, I don't think that on paper, Lajoie & Lagha have a "great chance" of winning at all.
AFAIK they've never medalled at the JGP when Polischuk & Vakhnov medalled in both their JGP last year. Polischuk & Vakhnov and Lewis & Bye are not some random RUS and US teams, they've never made it past the JGP series because they faced a LOT of depth at home.

 

[chuckm]

L&L have the highest summer comp marks, but that was at Quebec, where the scores are notoriously inflated.

 

[azcalder]

Is there going to be streaming for the JGP?

 

[decjimmy]

Yes, on the Junior Grand Prix youtube channel

 

[Cherry blossom]

Is there going to be streaming for the JGP?

Yeah on this channel, https://www.youtube.com/user/ISUJGP2011

 

[4everchan]

L&L have the highest summer comp marks, but that was at Quebec, where the scores are notoriously inflated.

hey chuckm... the scores for ALL summer comps are notoriously inflated... just saying... no need to go there...


my comment on this : some teams may have improved more than others during the off season... especially with juniors... we can see a big difference. Lajoie and Lagha are quite young and have junior eligibility for a while... let's see how they develop and transition to senior...

how many junior champions get stale in their progression and never hit hard on the senior scene or simply split/retire?

Let's not put too much pressure on these kids

 

[chuckm]

Lake Placid International (the ISU event) had an all-international panel of judges, and that was the summer event for Polishchuk / Vakhnov and Lewis/Bye. Quebec's panel was mostly Canadian judges.

 

[Sackie]

I was not looking at summer scores! And as someone else pointed out - they all are inflated!
I was looking at their Personal Best scores and L/L are at 148.26, P/V at 144.76 and L/B at 138.22!
That is what I meant by on paper!

 

[Ice Dance]

I was not looking at summer scores! And as someone else pointed out - they all are inflated!
I was looking at their Personal Best scores and L/L are at 148.26, P/V at 144.76 and L/B at 138.22!
That is what I meant by on paper!

Yes, it's legitimate criteria & a legitimate way to look at these teams. (And L&L had a great end of their season last year, no question). But L&L earned that score at Junior Worlds, where neither of the other teams competed. L&L did not have the highest PB score among these three teams prior to Junior Worlds. (And had L&L needed to qualify for Junior Worlds ahead of the same top three teams at U.S. Nationals or Russian Junior Nationals, there is quite a bit of evidence that says that L&L would not have been at Junior Worlds either). So this particular paper is comparing scores earned with early fall programs versus a score earned with a program performed this past March.

We will get a much better idea of where these three teams fall relative to each other here in Brisbane. Should be fun. This is what head-to-heads are for.

 

[4everchan]

Lake Placid International (the ISU event) had an all-international panel of judges, and that was the summer event for Polishchuk / Vakhnov and Lewis/Bye. Quebec's panel was mostly Canadian judges.

the fact that a panel is mostly composed of Canadian judges judging mostly Canadian teams doesn't mean that the scores will be higher... it could be tough love too... and some international judges are more lenient than others... and some Canadian judges are very strict...

anyways.. we will see what THIS panel thinks.. and that's more important ...

 

[dorispulaski]

All the ISU bios were updated, so all the music choices are available. I have put them all in the OP.

 

[Wilwarin]

Anyone to tell me when exactly will the dance SD start? Isureault shows 14.45 local time but on the schedule (pdf download) it says 14.15

 

[karne]

Live stream says it will start in 45 minutes, which is 2:45.

 

[Wilwarin]

Live stream says it will start in 45 minutes, which is 2:45.

Thank you! *calmly waiting*