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Premier League format for World Championship?
I don't know if we have ever had this talk before, but apparently I have this idea about how to reward consistency in a more legitimate way.
We are still crying over skaters' consistency. Like sometimes consistent skaters don't get enough credit (why Elena Radionova's scores drop even though she's consistent), but sometimes they get too much credit (why some skaters get such huge PCS even though the choreography isn't good, just because they're consistent). Sometimes skaters don't compete the whole season, but only come for big events like Europe and WC, and still get huge credit because they're champions/legends... Do you feel giving them huge PCS seems fair to other skaters who have compete the whole season? Or sometimes skaters do poorly in almost every competition, but only peak at WC and still got huge score and medal at WC, what about those who have been trying so hard in the GPs and senior B series?
Is there any way to reward consistency BUT Not by GOE and PCS inflation?
Just image we had a more transparent and consistent scoring system, we knew all the judges and clear guidelines and there were nothing outrageous in this system. Okay this sounds surreal but just assume that we were having an objective scoring system and not many controversies. Just image it happened and we were not puzzled by PCS and GOE okay.
So what about this, we apply a scoring format like Premier League for the whole season. Each medal each competition skaters get will be converted into points. Medals in senior B also counts, but less point than senior A. In a way, it's like World Standing but these points will eventually get counted as Medals at World Championship.
For example, what if
- Gold at Senior B = 2 points, silver 1 points, bronze 0.5 point
- Gold at Senior A GP = 5 points, silver 4 points, bronze 3 points
- Gold at GPF= 7 points, silver 6 points, bronze 5 points
- Gold at Euro/4CC = 9 points, silver 8 points, bronze 7 points
Then at WC we might have different way to score:
- Win the SP at WC = 8 points, second 6 points, third 4 points.
- Win the LP at WC = 12 points, second 10 points, third 8 points.
All these scores will be used to determine the final standings at World Championship. So one who gathers the highest score throughout the season will be world champion. The same applies for podium and final standing overall.
I think the World Champion should be someone who is consistent throughout the season relatively. For example I think this season the most consistent skaters of the season won (Liza, Javi, P/C and D/R are all relatively consistent) and I think this is very good for the sport. But it's not like we always have this situation happen every year. Sometimes the one who won isn't consistent at all and might have many disasters over the season suddenly get the best result overall. I think these inconsistent but brilliant skaters should get rewards, but not the highest rewards.
So skaters who have been consistent throughout the season might still get rewards, skaters who have competed the whole season in both senior B and A also get rewards, and maybe this format will encourage skaters to join more competitions as possible?
What do you think? It's just an idea and just an example I can think of at the moment, not the exact format that could be useful in reality. But I think it's interesting format to discuss.
I don't know if we have ever had this talk before, but apparently I have this idea about how to reward consistency in a more legitimate way.
We are still crying over skaters' consistency. Like sometimes consistent skaters don't get enough credit (why Elena Radionova's scores drop even though she's consistent), but sometimes they get too much credit (why some skaters get such huge PCS even though the choreography isn't good, just because they're consistent). Sometimes skaters don't compete the whole season, but only come for big events like Europe and WC, and still get huge credit because they're champions/legends... Do you feel giving them huge PCS seems fair to other skaters who have compete the whole season? Or sometimes skaters do poorly in almost every competition, but only peak at WC and still got huge score and medal at WC, what about those who have been trying so hard in the GPs and senior B series?
Is there any way to reward consistency BUT Not by GOE and PCS inflation?
Just image we had a more transparent and consistent scoring system, we knew all the judges and clear guidelines and there were nothing outrageous in this system. Okay this sounds surreal but just assume that we were having an objective scoring system and not many controversies. Just image it happened and we were not puzzled by PCS and GOE okay.
So what about this, we apply a scoring format like Premier League for the whole season. Each medal each competition skaters get will be converted into points. Medals in senior B also counts, but less point than senior A. In a way, it's like World Standing but these points will eventually get counted as Medals at World Championship.
For example, what if
- Gold at Senior B = 2 points, silver 1 points, bronze 0.5 point
- Gold at Senior A GP = 5 points, silver 4 points, bronze 3 points
- Gold at GPF= 7 points, silver 6 points, bronze 5 points
- Gold at Euro/4CC = 9 points, silver 8 points, bronze 7 points
Then at WC we might have different way to score:
- Win the SP at WC = 8 points, second 6 points, third 4 points.
- Win the LP at WC = 12 points, second 10 points, third 8 points.
All these scores will be used to determine the final standings at World Championship. So one who gathers the highest score throughout the season will be world champion. The same applies for podium and final standing overall.
I think the World Champion should be someone who is consistent throughout the season relatively. For example I think this season the most consistent skaters of the season won (Liza, Javi, P/C and D/R are all relatively consistent) and I think this is very good for the sport. But it's not like we always have this situation happen every year. Sometimes the one who won isn't consistent at all and might have many disasters over the season suddenly get the best result overall. I think these inconsistent but brilliant skaters should get rewards, but not the highest rewards.
So skaters who have been consistent throughout the season might still get rewards, skaters who have competed the whole season in both senior B and A also get rewards, and maybe this format will encourage skaters to join more competitions as possible?
What do you think? It's just an idea and just an example I can think of at the moment, not the exact format that could be useful in reality. But I think it's interesting format to discuss.
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