.... Don't think the list will ever be complete with 100% certainty, but it does give a very good ballpark figure on how many skaters have jumped at least that one good quad. And how many have tried to get it done...
I am more than happy to continue until all our enthusiasm is exhausted ...
I think the biggest changes will come to the tries list - and that is the one which will be the least complete one, because particularly many nationals competition results can be hard to find. Hardly any change in the got it done section, but quite a lot of addition to the tried/trying!...
Add to the attempted but not succeeded Graham Newberry and to succeeded but only at nationals Harry Mattick.
Thanks, eppen.
Please, guys ... for everyone's sake, I hope that we will try not to repeat names unnecessarily.
Newberry and Mattick already were on the lists in eppen's post (#63) immediately above -- from many hours ago.
That’s odd. I looked and I didn’t see them when I wrote my post.
The list is being reposted rather than being updated.
That’s odd. I looked and I didn’t see them when I wrote my post.
What??
Your post is not fair to eppen. Over the course of the thread, s/he has posted several updated versions of the list.
What??
Your post is not fair to eppen. Over the course of the thread, s/he has posted several updated versions of the list.
The list is being reposted rather than being updated.
What do you mean I'm not being fair to eppen?
I'm literally stating this so that DsQ knows why s/he missed it
I was stating why s/he missed it if s/he looked at the first list..... I'm not insulting anybody in any way?
I was literally telling DSQ why s/he didnt notice Graham, as s/he was looking at the first post.
What I said was correct. A new list is posted every time rather than first post being updated.
Hence why DSQ missed it...
But your original wording -- "The list is being reposted rather than being updated" -- was open to the misinterpretation that I made. Your intended meaning was not obvious.
Only because of your new wording -- "A new list is posted every time rather than first post being updated" -- do I now understand, in hindsight, what your intended meaning was.
And based on DSQ's post #67 in response to my reference specifically to eppen's post #63, I do not feel at all sure whether your scenario of looking at only the first list even is the reason why DSQ inadvertently missed Mattick's and Newberry's names.
Anyway ... thank you for the clarification of your intended meaning.
But your original wording -- "The list is being reposted rather than being updated" -- was open to the misinterpretation that I made. Your intended meaning was not obvious.
Only because of your new wording -- "A new list is posted every time rather than first post being updated" -- do I now understand, in hindsight, what your intended meaning was.
And based on DSQ's post #67 in response to my reference specifically to eppen's post #63, I do not feel at all sure whether your scenario of looking at only the first list even is the reason why DSQ inadvertently missed Mattick's and Newberry's names.
Anyway ... thank you for the clarification of your intended meaning.
I found (via a Japanese site) another 33 skaters marked "4" for their failed jumps in international competitions.
Many of them were downgraded and/or fell. I am not sure if it should be counted.
retired / current is just a speculation by competitive records from RinkResults
...
current 10
Mattia DALLA TORRE (Egna Spring Trophy 2019 FS)
Luc ECONOMIDES (Challenge Cup 2019 FS, Finlandia Trophy 2019 FS)
Igor EFIMCHUK (Volvo Open Cup 2016 FS, JGP Minsk 2017 FS)
Nika EGADZE (JGP Salzburg 2017 FS, JGP Zagreb 2017 FS)
Kwang Bom HAN (Asian Open Figure Skating Trophy 2018 SP/FS)
Artem KOVALEV (Volvo Open Cup 2019 SP/FS)
Daniel Albert NAURITS (Finlandia Trophy 2018 SP)
Basar OKTAR (Skate Victoria 2019 FS)
Javier RAYA (Merano Cup 2016 SP/FS, Golden Spin 2016 FS)
Anton SHULEPOV (Cup of Nice 2016 SP, Golden Spin 2016 FS, Ice Star 2017 SP/FS, Internationaux de France 2019 SP/FS)
I found (via a Japanese site) another 33 skaters marked "4" for their failed jumps in international competitions.
Has anyone ever landed a 4-3-3 in international competition besides Plushenko?
I was told by a friend that Plushenko is the only one and will remain the only because 4-3-3s and 3-3-3s are not allowed. That doesn't make any sense because I've seen 4-2-2s and 3-3-2s before. If a skater wants an eight triple layout with a 4-3-3 he or she will need a) more than one quad and b) the ability to do -3Lo combinations. (i.e., 4T+3T+3T, 4S, 3A, 3S/3A+2T, 3Lz+3Lo, 3F. It seems to me that the reason no one does them is because of the Zayak rule or an inability to do so, not because of any rule explicitly forbidding it. Can anyone clarify?