2016 Trophée de France Mens FS
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Wonder if this is the reason Nathan left Rafael. He would not let him do 5 quads but Marina says okay. The 5-quad programme is actually the planned alternate if he falls in one or more of the first four quads.
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Well my friend says the same, like: "If they want to skate until 2022, they should not do 4 quads right now."
There's no big sponsor for Trophee this year. So reduced budget.
Actually the only way GPF has all the skaters win one event is if all 6 GP won by 6 different skaters. Since Javier won two already. At least one skater would be a non-winner.. So you can't fault anyone for that. They just qualify for being the highest non-winner.
But I see what you mean in that a non winner qualifies but a winner with a poor second GP result did not. This may happen to Boyang if he wins China and a skater with a 2-3 placement qualifies.
We should be glad Patrick Chan did not skate here. Otherwise the puddle would be blamed for everything.
Adam needs that quad in SP too.
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thanks for pointing out the absurdity. Most of the time, no one even bothers.
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You're shifting the attention from the important issue raised by viennaskater and others for an opportunity to bash Chan, who only brought it out in the open without dwelling on it. Now there is a general awareness for everybody to notice this problem and to maybe have understanding of some of the disappointing performances. It's an issue ISU and event organizers should be vigilant about for safety and fairness.
Nah not bashing Patrick Chan. He complained about it last year at 4CC? If someone else had complained about puddles, I would have used his name.
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I completely agree. It surprises me to be so powerfully affected by this program. First, I'm still not over his Beatles program and will never quit watching it.
But especially this: I'm not at all fond of pantomiming, whether it's from one of the Russian baby phenoms or one of my favorite skaters. So when I was glimpsing only parts of the program, thanks to screen freeze, I was like, okay, it's beautiful skating, Adam, but ....
When I watched it in its entirety, I felt awe. It's the highlight of the whole Trophee France week-end for me. Exquisite. A masterpiece.
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No problem at 4CC at all. He skated a wonderful and memorable LP to Chopin. It was at Boston Worlds that the puddly ice, worsened by all the quads by the last group, caused problems for several skaters, Patrick the most as the last to skate. I've discussed this issue and hoped the problem would be addressed for the safety and fairness for all skaters and the enjoyment for the fans. Unfortunately the French federation too failed to ensure an up to the standard ice.
Is Adam the oldest skater to jump his first clean quad?
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^^^^^ What an interesting thought. As I'm thinking back, it wouldn't surprise me if that's so.
And considering that this sort of extreme technique gets more difficult as the body ages, what an accomplishment!
And considering that this sort of extreme technique gets more difficult as the body ages, what an accomplishment!
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Adam was credited with landed fully rotated 4Ts at 2013 NHK, though both got negative GOEs. Since he just turned 27, he would have been 24 at that time. Other than that, I can't answer your question.
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show me where he has done so.... we are talking here about ONE of the PCS components being about 3 points below what he's give to that particular skater... not comparing to other skaters... just within one set of marks...
the difference here is that for a long time, judges have scored PCS with skating skill being the guiding score... then transitions going .5 lower and the rest as SS more or less... so 2-3 points lower or higher in ONE element would be interesting indeed.
the difference here is that for a long time, judges have scored PCS with skating skill being the guiding score... then transitions going .5 lower and the rest as SS more or less... so 2-3 points lower or higher in ONE element would be interesting indeed.
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this is completely unfair to Patrick.
We ALL mentioned the puddle at Boston, like we did here. The fact that Patrick has the courage to speak up about it, is commendable. Not the opposite.
I can see some similarities with Gabby and Patrick here. They both have huge speed and both had their first pass in the puddle corner Patrick had to pop, Gabby fell. If you think that only Patrick is affected by the puddle, you are not being fair nor logical. Medvedeva also fell in that corner. She never falls. Many girls did....
The only one who skated on a good ice was Mae, first skater of the night.
We ALL mentioned the puddle at Boston, like we did here. The fact that Patrick has the courage to speak up about it, is commendable. Not the opposite.
I can see some similarities with Gabby and Patrick here. They both have huge speed and both had their first pass in the puddle corner Patrick had to pop, Gabby fell. If you think that only Patrick is affected by the puddle, you are not being fair nor logical. Medvedeva also fell in that corner. She never falls. Many girls did....
The only one who skated on a good ice was Mae, first skater of the night.
Whatever was the reason of the puddle and which skaters affect or didn't affect, I hope this doesn't repeat itself at the GPF. It's sad that some of the best skaters in the world compete against each other before Worlds but end up underperforming because of circumstances out of their control, like ice conditions.
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