2017 CS Nebelhorn Mens SP

[dorispulaski]

Oberstdorf, Germany
Sep 27 - Sep 30, 2017

Thursday, 28 September 2017 at 17:30 UTC +2

Time in other places:
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldcl...4&p7=352&p8=101&p9=31&p10=136&p11=286&p12=256

• ISU Event Home page
• Official Nebelhorn Trophy Homepage
• Time and Practice Schedule
• Entries
• Announcement
• Start Time for Each Skater
• Detailed Results and Protocols
• Livestream

START ORDER​

StN. Name Nation Warm-Up Group 1​ 1 Jorik HENDRICKX BEL 2 Sondre ODDVOLL BOE NOR 3 Igor REZNICHENKO POL 4 Burak DEMIRBOGA TUR 5 Stephane WALKER SUI Warm-Up Group 2​ 6 Michael Christian MARTINEZ PHI 7 Alexander MAJOROV SWE 8 Luc MAIERHOFER AUT 9 Slavik HAYRAPETYAN ARM 10 Larry LOUPOLOVER AZE Warm-Up Group 3​ 11 Thomas KENNES NED 12 Valtter VIRTANEN FIN 13 Nicky OBREYKOV BUL 14 Nicholas VRDOLJAK CRO 15 Matteo RIZZO ITA Warm-Up Group 4​ 16 Chih-I TSAO TPE 17 Yaroslav PANIOT UKR 18 Julian Zhi Jie YEE MAS 19 Conor STAKELUM IRL 20 Harrison Jon-Yen WONG HKG Warm-Up Group 5​ 21 Aleksandr SELEVKO EST 22 June Hyoung LEE KOR 23 Yakau ZENKO BLR 24 Graham NEWBERRY GBR 25 Donovan CARRILLO MEX 26 Alexander JOHNSON USA

ENTRIES​

No.	Name	Nation
1	Slavik HAYRAPETYAN SP: Strangers In The Night performed by Frank Sinatra; choreo by Ekaterina Proskurina FS: God Bless Armenia by Vig Zartmen; choreo by Ekaterina Proskurina	ARM
2	Luc MAIERHOFER SP: Figaros Hochzeit by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart; choreo by Benoit Richaud FS: Tango Selection; choreo by Benoit Richaud	AUT
3	Larry LOUPOLOVER SP: "Earned It" by The Weeknd; choreo by Igor Lukanin FS: The Great Gatsby soundtrack; choreo by Igor Lukanin	AZE
4	Yakau ZENKO SP: Dream by Imagine Dragons; choreo by Svetlana Kashtalapova FS: Still Loving You by The Scorpions; Whole Lotta Love by Led Zeppelin; choreo by Svetlana Kashtalapova	BLR
5	Jorik HENDRICKX SP: "Je Suis Malade" performed by Francesco di Cello; choreo by Adam Solya FS: "Concerto de Aranjuez" by Joaquin Rodrigo, performed by Il Divo; choreo by Adam Solya	BEL
6	Nicky OBREYKOV SP: The Question of U by Prince; choreo by Romain Gazave FS: Hip Hop Violin Medley, "Beauty From Afar, " "Thunder" by Nuttin' but Stringz; choreo by Romain Gazave	BUL
7	Chih-I TSAO SP: "Feeling Good" by Michael Bublé (2016-17 SP); choreo by S. Inthalaksa (SP) FS: "Heroes Crusade" by Immediate Music, "The Vision" by X-Ray Dog, "Gods and Demons" by Feature World Music; choreo by C. Paulinus (FS)	TPE
8	Nicholas VRDOLJAK SP: "Black Cat, White Cat" (soundtrack) by Goran Bregovic; choreo by Marina Gromova FS: "Welcome to the Machine" by Pink Floyd, "Coming Back to Life" by Pink Floyd; choreo by Marina Gromova	CRO
9	Aleksandr SELEVKO SP I Step Out For A While by Patrick Watson; choreo by Valentin Molotov FS Caruso performed by Luciano Pavarotti; choreo by Valentin Molotov	EST
10	Valtter VIRTANEN SP: "Georgia On My Mind" performed by Ray Charles; choreo by Rostislav Sinicyn FS: La Strada soundtrack by Nino Rota; choreo by Rostislav Sinicyn	FIN
11	Graham NEWBERRY SP: Sound of Silence performed by Disturbed; choreo by Daisuke Isozaki FS: Gladiator (soundtrack) by Hans Zimmer; choreo by Daisuke Isozaki	GBR
12	Harrison Jon-Yen WONG SP: "To Build A Home" by Cinematic Orchestra; choreo by Scott Brown FS: "Concierto de Aranjuez," "En Aranjuez con tu amor;" choreo by Scott Brown	HKG
13	Conor STAKELUM SP: The Red Violin by John Corigliano; choreo by Andrew Smith FS: "Chasing Cars" by Cinematic Pop, "Chasing Cars" by Snow Patrol; choreo by Andrew Smith	IRL
14	Matteo RIZZO SP: "Torna a Surriento," performed by Il Volo; choreo by Corrado Giordani, Massimo Scali FS: Beatles medley, "Come Together" by The Beatles, "Let It Be" by the Beatles, performed by Air With Air Rising (a piano version), "Help!" by The Beatles; choreo by Corrado Giordani, Massimo Scali	ITA
15	Julian Zhi Jie YEE SP: "To Build a Home" by The Cinematic Orchestra; choreo by Elvin Wong (SP) FS: James Brown medley (2016-17 LP): "It's a Man's World" by James Brown, "Get It On" by James Brown, "I Feel Good" by James Brown; choreo by Michael Hopfes	MAS
16	Donovan CARRILLO SP: "Capone" by Ronan Hardiman; choreo by Gregorio Nuñez FS: "Hasta Que Te Conoci" by Juan Gabriel, performed by Raul di Blasio; choreo by Gregorio Nuñez	MEX
17	Thomas KENNES SP: Hallelujah; choreo by Benoit Richaud FS: Ghost (musical soundtrack); choreo by Benoit Richaud	NED
18	Sondre ODDVOLL BOE SP: "Silent Storm" by Carl Espen; choreo by Michael Huth FS: Exogenesis Symphony Part 3 by Muse; choreo by Michael Huth	NOR
19	Michael Christian MARTINEZ SP: "O Fortuna" from Carmina Burana by Carl Orff; choreo by Phillip Mills FS: Tango de los Exilados by Walter Taieb, Vanessa Mae & El Tango de Roxanne (from "Moulin Rouge"); choreo by Phillip Mills	PHI
20	Igor REZNICHENKO SP: "Give Me Love" by Ed Sheeran; choreo by Valentin Molotov, Olga Glinka, R. Sinicyn FS: "La Strada" by Nino Rota; choreo by Valentin Molotov, Olga Glinka, R. Sinicyn	POL
21	June Hyoung LEE SP: "Eternally" (Charlie Chaplin - based on Terry's Theme from Limelight) by Il Volo; choreo. by David Wilson FS: "Bohemian Rhapsody" by Queen; choreo. by David Wilson	KOR
22	Alexander MAJOROV SP: " Bang Bang" by Asaf Avidan; choreo. by Irina Majorova, Marica Sandström Lindh FS: "Man With the Golden Arm" (soundtrack) by Elmer Bernstein, "From Russia With Love" (James Bond soundtrack) by Elmer Bernstein, "Peter Gunn Theme" by Blues Brothers; choreo. by Irina Majorova, Marica Sandström Lindh	SWE
23	Stephane WALKER SP: Back to Black (Andre 3000 and Beyonce) by Amy Winehouse from the Great Gatsby soundtrack; choreo by Luca Mantovani, Stephane Walker FS: Il Postino (soundtrack) by Luis Bacalov, Mi Mancherai (from "Il Postin") performed by Josh Groban; choreo by Luca Mantovani, Stephane Walker	SUI
24	Burak DEMIRBOGA SP: Another Love; choreo by Ali Demirboga FS: Grande Amore; choreo by Ali Demirboga	TUR
25	Yaroslav PANIOT SP: Romeo & Juliet Overture by P. I. Tchaikovsky; choreo by Mark Pillay FS: Four Seasons by Antonio Vivaldi; choreo by Mark Pillay	UKR
26	Alexander JOHNSON SP: "Legends" by Sacred Spirit; choreo by Tom Dickson FS: Aranjuez performed by Jorge Muniz, Jose Luis Duval; choreo by Tom Dickson	USA		D

D - Not for OWG Qualification

 

[silverfoxes]

So I was reading this interview with Majorov and he says the Swedish Olympic Committee will only send him if he qualifies and earns 260 points this season. I have to say that I don't find that a very realistic possibility for him (and rather unfair of the SOC to expect such numbers from one of their skaters). So what happens if he qualifies at Nebelhorn and has to give up his Oly spot? Is it just wasted?

 

[decjimmy]

Qualification places earned and not used for the individual events (not the Team event) by the NOCs, will be filled by stand-by NOCs based on the final result of the designated ISU Senior International Qualification Competition for those NOCs not qualified and not yet represented.

from Olympic qualification document

 

[YesWay]

So I was reading this interview with Majorov and he says the Swedish Olympic Committee will only send him if he qualifies and earns 260 points this season. I have to say that I don't find that a very realistic possibility for him (and rather unfair of the SOC to expect such numbers from one of their skaters).

They're basically saying he has to break into the top twenty all-time high scorers
(because less than 20 skaters in the world have ever scored 260 or more)

Wow. How mean is that?

 

[kevinVchicago]

Let's go Graham, Matteo, and Yaroslav!

 

[mirai_asada]

JULIAN Yee is facing one of the biggest weeks of his career, as the 20-year-old bids to become Malaysia’s first Winter Olympian.

The first Malaysian to participate at the World Figure Skating Championships, and the first man to win SEA Games figure skating gold, Yee could this week seal what would arguably be his most prestigious first: Olympic qualification.

"Knowing that Malaysia is a tropical country, and that we are able to excel in winter sports, really shows that anything is possible and that Malaysia is on the right path to a bright future in this forte. I also want to put my nation, even more so, the Southeast Asian region on the figure skating map and show the world that we have potential in our region."

"I think that preparations towards the Nebelhorn Trophy are going as planned,” he said.

"So far I've been able to tweak my programs and learn from mistakes to ready myself for this competition. Overall, I’m doing my best to get ready for this competition. My ultimate goal would be to qualify for the Winter Olympics – and I hope to do so by putting on a good showing at the Nebelhorn Trophy. I would also love to be able to contribute and help develop figure skating in the Southeast Asian region."


[...]

Good luck Julian!

 

[Trewyn]

Ahh Jorik is first to skate! GO Jorik!

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

Here is the live stream on Daily Motion (starts in 7h 30m from now):

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5zvn3q

If you have problems with Daily Motion, the livestream is also embedded at the bottom of this page on the DEU's website:

https://www.eislauf-union.de/events/nebelhorn-trophy

Here is the time schedule:

http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1718/csger2017/csger2017_Men_SP_TimeSchedule.pdf

And here is the livescoring:

http://www.isuresults.com/results/season1718/csger2017/SEG001.HTM

ALL THE BEST EVERYBODY!!!

CaroLiza_fan

 

[jFarrisFAN]

Did Patrick WD?

 

[MaiKatze]

Sad Patrick isn't here, but I'm determined to enjoy the men! My favourite discipline. Yes!

 

[Winnie_20]

Oh man, I must be even more tired than I thought. Just got home from really exhausting work day, came here to check when the men's SP is starting. Looked at the time... and then hit the link to the time conversion website to see what 17:30 UTC + 2 could possibly be in my timezone.

I really do know Germany is the same timezone as the Netherlands, honestly (never mind I only live about ten minutes from Germany by car). I just...

 

[snowflake]

So I was reading this interview with Majorov and he says the Swedish Olympic Committee will only send him if he qualifies and earns 260 points this season. I have to say that I don't find that a very realistic possibility for him (and rather unfair of the SOC to expect such numbers from one of their skaters).

Seems like the Swedish Olympic Committee watched last world's results where 260 had put him in 8th place. Between Kolyada 257.47 and Brown 269.57.

I understand that SOC has to be strict. Sweden will be sending a large group to Pyeongchang for a country of 10 million people: two hockey teams, curlers, skiiers etc. Each athlete of course is costly(I wonder how much) But this requiered score is way to high(though I'm glad Alexander has a plan ). Also I don’t think SOC realizes how tough it is for a skater from a small nation to get high points even when they perform well.

Oddly enough the skating federation's information about an olympic spot is contradicting:

to perform good enough to place in a top-eight-level position in selected competitions such as Grand Prix and Challenger competitions during the autumn.

So let's hope SOC changed their minds since the interview.

What’s the deal for the Norwegian and Finnish skaters if their countries qualify?

Well, let’s see what happens here and GO Nordic boys… Sondre, Alexander and Valtter

 

[Trewyn]

So how many Olympic starting places are on the line now?

ETA: anyone else have that annoying noise on the dailymotion stream?

 

[Norwayskater]

What’s the deal for the Norwegian and Finnish skaters if their countries qualify?

Well, let’s see what happens here and GO Nordic boys… Sondre, Alexander and Valtter [/QUOTE]


Basically the NOC (Norwegian Olympic comitee) wants athlets to have atleast a top 8 placment at europeans or a top 12 placement at worlds. This is pretty much out of the question for Anne-Line and Sondre.
But, there is a possibility for them to make a deal to be top 12 at two competions, and they can make an agreement with the NOC about which competions that could be.
If they are not able to do that it can be made an exeption if their results are consider top international quality. Whatever that means.

This was also a problem when Anne-Line qualifed for the 2014 Olympics, were they didn`t want to send her because she did not place within the top 8 at europeans. Luckily they did see the value of sending her. In Norway being able to send a figure skater to the olympics really helped the sport, and people actually discovered that it`s possible to do something else than ski for a winter sport.
Crossing my fingers for Sondre tonight and Anne-Line tomorrow. And hoping the NOC will have the grace to send them if they qualify.

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

Right, after an hour and a half with the wee girls, it's time for the big boys!

Judges currently getting introduced on the stream:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5zvn3q

Unfortunately, I will be have to leave after Majorov, but will be returning sometime in Group 3 after I'm fed.

ALL THE BEST GUYS!!!

CaroLiza_fan

 

[silverfoxes]

It's hard to imagine any growth in the sport when TPTB make it basically impossible for you to go to the Olys even if you manage to qualify. The odds are really stacked against you if you come from a small fed (although some are obviously more supportive than others).

 

[Winnie_20]

ETA: anyone else have that annoying noise on the dailymotion stream?

Yes!
Also, are there archived streams of the ice dance and pairs from earlier today? I'm not familiar with dailymotion and hope I'm just overlooking the obvious in-your-face livestream link...

 

[CaroLiza_fan]

Basically the NOC (Norwegian Olympic comitee) wants athlets to have atleast a top 8 placment at europeans or a top 12 placement at worlds. This is pretty much out of the question for Anne-Line and Sondre.
But, there is a possibility for them to make a deal to be top 12 at two competions, and they can make an agreement with the NOC about which competions that could be.
If they are not able to do that it can be made an exeption if their results are consider top international quality. Whatever that means.

This was also a problem when Anne-Line qualifed for the 2014 Olympics, were they didn`t want to send her because she did not place within the top 8 at europeans. Luckily they did see the value of sending her. In Norway being able to send a figure skater to the olympics really helped the sport, and people actually discovered that it`s possible to do something else than ski for a winter sport.
Crossing my fingers for Sondre tonight and Anne-Line tomorrow. And hoping the NOC will have the grace to send them if they qualify.

Oh, not again. :disapp: I remember the drama over whether Anne-Line was going to be allowed to go to Sochi.

If they qualify, let them go. Simple as that. The local Fed shouldn't be putting in extra requirements on top of what the governing body expects of the skaters.

CaroLiza_fan

 

[Winnie_20]

Great going, Jorik!!!!

 

[Sabrina]

For me DM right now is very choppy...