Luka Brrrrrrla, Ted?
sorry no Nebelhorn for me...until it appears in the REWATCHoff to watch dance in Germany. see you there. ARRRRR
A clip of the Ukrainians refusing the greet the Georgians has gone a bit viral and made the news in Ukraine.
I fully understand where they're coming from... but sorry, that's still bush league nonsense. If you don't want to great, then tell them beforehand or tell someone running the event so that they can tell them.
It's an awkward situation for all involved, but Anastasia and Luka are also both grown adults and certainly not unaware of Ukrainian athletes across all types of sports refusing to hug or shake hands with Russian-born athletes who are still living and training in Russia (regardless of which country they represent now) and could have taken the opportunity to ask about hugs before the ceremony as well if they wanted to avoid this. The Ukrainians were very polite, if firm, about their refusal, neither pair involved in the situation here made a scene, so I don't see why we have to do it for them.A clip of the Ukrainians refusing the greet the Georgians has gone a bit viral and made the news in Ukraine.
I fully understand where they're coming from... but sorry, that's still bush league nonsense. If you don't want to greet, then tell them beforehand or tell someone running the event so that they can tell them.
It's an awkward situation for all involved, but Anastasia and Luka are also both grown adults and certainly not unaware of Ukrainian athletes across all types of sports refusing to hug or shake hands with Russian-born athletes who are still living and training in Russia (regardless of which country they represent now) and could have taken the opportunity to ask about hugs before the ceremony as well if they wanted to avoid this. The Ukrainians were very polite, if firm, about their refusal, neither pair involved in the situation here made a scene, so I don't see why we have to do it for them.
Regardless of the situation here, other athletes have refused hugs for non-political reasons too, and while it is always a bit awkward, it is generally not that big of a deal, and maybe it would be principally better in all situations for people to ask beforehand if hugging is okay so that these somewhat awkward situations can be avoided - at least on camera.
I don't know what you're seeing because Ivan is clearly looking in the other direction, and Violetta doesn't even raise her arms. The Ukrainians are the ones already on the podium, the girl aborting the hug is the Georgian. And she doesn't abort it because her partner told her to, but because Violetta is clearly not interested in hugging her.And, by the way, the video clearly shows the Ukrainian woman reaching up to offer a congratulatory hug to the Georgian woman before the man stopped her. Which opens up a whole new can of worms.
It should always be the burden of the one offering the hug to make sure the other person wants to be hugged, regardless of the situation. Also, hugs are not as common as you seem to be under the impression they are. All three junior podiums Sierova/Khobta were on last season happened without a single hug, so they very well could have been under the impression that this is not something commonly done in junior pairs. Most (if not all) of the podiums from the JGP, JGPF and Jr Worlds didn't involve any hugging last season after all.But I strongly disagree that the burden should be placed on the athletes who might suspect they are not to be treated in a fashion that is the longstanding norm.
My apologies... I had the nationalities of the participants confused. You are correct, in that it was the Georgian girl who offered the hug and was rejected.I don't know what you're seeing because Ivan is clearly looking in the other direction, and Violetta doesn't even raise her arms. The Ukrainians are the ones already on the podium, the girl aborting the lift is the Georgian. And she doesn't abort it because her partner told her to, but because Violetta is clearly not interested in hugging her.
It's the burden the party who wants to break the norm to inform that they want to break the norm... or else it's impossible to have norms. And greeting at the award ceremony is the norm.It should always be the burden of the one offering the hug to make sure the other person wants to be hugged, regardless of the situation.
It should be the norm to ask anyone, especially strangers, before you hug or touch them. Consent is very important.It should be the burden of the one breaking the norm to inform that they want to break the norm... or else it's impossible to have norms.
Lately? It's been years really.It's the burden the party who wants to break the norm to inform that they want to break the norm... or else it's impossible to have norms. And greeting at the award ceremony is the norm.
But it's important not to make too much of this. Tarasova response to this shows how she's become such a sad crank lately.