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I think you (@el henry) should apply as board member...
Where do I sign the petition?
I think you (@el henry) should apply as board member...
Not anymore.This is an obscure trophy that no one ever heard of.
How iconic, you even have Tracy Wilson making an appearance as a reporter in the Paul Wylie video.
I like history lessons about interesting things. and this certainly is. At least you didn't do it the old fashioned way with all the years mentioned (which we had to learn by heart at school once).Well, as a Jason fangirl, I did listen to all of Misha's and Paul's speeches. (not in this clip. There are fancams on Youtube and Rohene Ward posted a fancam on his IG )
I also knew about the Trophy before this, thought it was such a great story even before Jason.
So I will try to summarize:
1. Up until Paul Wylie, the physical trophy was passed from skater to skater by a tap on the back. A secret society. Ulrich chose Dick, Dick chose Misha, Misha chose Paul.
2. Paul gave the physical Trophy to the Dick Button trophy room in Boston after some years. Recently, he decided that a Board should be formed on future awards of the Trophy and coordinated with USFS on Board membership. (source: TSL interview with Paul Wylie. Normally do not give Dave Lease clicks, but this interview, all two hours of it, was great).
3. Paul mentioned the Board in his speech. That is where he also mentioned the criteria. I have not been able to find written criteria or the Board members. For some reason I think there are four members, but I have no idea where I got that from.
4. Total and complete guess, are the Board members the people in the photo with Jason? I recognize Misha and Paul, but not the other two.
5. Those who knew about the Trophy (but not the Board) have been rumbling for a few years that Jason should get it. Dave L. even mentioned that in his interview with Paul. Paul was tight lipped.
6. The names are engraved on the Trophy, like the Stanley Cup. Don't ask me where I got that from, right now it's "trust me bro"
Setting the Trophy up in this way is, as noted, formalizing a way to reward skaters outside the system: those who are not winning gold, but advancing the sport in their own way. (in fact, according to Paul's speech, preferably not an Olympic gold medalist is one of the criteria. not a prerequisite, just a preference)
Thus ends the history lesson
They said1900 World Championships-if I remember correctly, but Salchow was 2nd there...Is it known which of Salchow's trophies this is? Does Jason now have a trophy engraved, "First place, European Figure Skating Championship, 1907?
That's actually pretty cool. Maybe Dick Button didn't want to seem immodest since he was only second at his 1947 event.They said1900 World Championships-if I remember correctly, but Salchow was 2nd there...
That's what I was thinking, too. Either way,, such a cool story and so happy for Jason. Thank you @el henry for sharing it!That's actually pretty cool. Maybe Dick Button didn't want to seem immodest since he was only second at his 1947 event.
There's a picture of the trophy on the Skating club of Boston website from post 14. If I blow it up, I can see that it was from the Niagara International Skating competition of Feb 1900. (London is also there in smaller letters).
An interesting article. I assumed that the Niagara on the trophy referred to Niagara Falls. It does so only indirectly, as the Niagara Ice Hall in London (England) had a huge mural of Niagara Falls.Thank you! That makes sense. I wouldn't expect 17-year old Button to ask the Great One for one of his world championship trophies, and, "oh, by the way, could you throw in your 1908 Olympic gold medal on the side? -- I hate it that I have to wait a ahole year before I get mine."
Here is an article about the BIg Three figure skating clubs of London at the end of the Voctorian / beginning of Edwardian eras. Besides the Niagara there was also the National Skating Palace and the Prince's Skating Club.
Figure Skating In The Edwardian Era
Extensive historical feature on figure skating during the Edwardian era from 1902 to 1910skateguard1.blogspot.com
“Smart London is mad on skating just now. The real ice rink at Niagara Hall is the afternoon rendezvous of the sweetness and light of society, and there could scarcely be a more agreeable way of spending a couple of hours than it affords.
"The steep admission fees charged at the National Skating Palace... were in place to attract 'only the best sort of people' and keep 'the commoners' out."
That's our Jason: the sweetness and light of society!
That first clip is crazy with the dog running out onto the ice. Can you imagine? And I would have expected Uncle Dick to be in a suit and not a sweater. Guess it was really cold.