Jeremy should coach and choreograph. He has the best edges and maybe he could pass along that knowledge to the younger generation.
I hope that he will just leave very quietly and without fan fare.
Personally, I dislike his off-ice personality, his lack of nerve and confidence in competition, and his competitive programs are all sentimental nonsense (looking like you are going to cry and having angsty looks is not artistry) while flopping all over the ice trying to compete with the good jumpers.
Just please go quietly. Do. Not. Pass. Go. Do. Not. Collect. $200.00.
But then I started picking up on an arrogance in Jeremy and his now infamous comments in Sochi just cemented it for me.
What comments, I know nothing. Please tell.
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/feb/14/olympics-jeremy-abbott-choking-skating/
“I just want to put my middle finger in the air and say a big ‘F-you’ to anyone who’s ever said that to me, because they’ve never stood in my shoes and they’ve never had to do what I do,” said Abbott, 28, who is expected to retire after this season. “Nobody has to stand center ice in front of a million people and put an entire career on the line for eight minutes of their life when they’ve been doing it for 20-some years.
“If you think that’s not hard, then you’re a damn idiot. Some people can handle it better than others, but everyone has that mental struggle. Everyone goes through the same doubt. I’m not alone. Everyone has their highs and their lows, and they just come at different moments. You know, some people have their moment at the Olympics and some people have theirs at the national championships.
“I’m proud to be standing here. I’m a four-time national champion, I’m a two-time Olympian, and no one can take that away from me. Whatever people have to say about me, that’s their own problem. I’m frickin’ proud of what I’ve done, and I’m not going to apologize for anything.”
Jeremy should follow his heart and do what Jeremy wants. It's his life and his path. He obviously loves skating and is very talented. As far as competitions go, either he has found or will find his mental strength or he won't and the results will tell the story. Whatever spot he wants, he has to earn it so there is nothing unfair about it.
He should be a very good choreographer. As for coaching, he would be great if he can show he has finally figured out the mental part of competition, which means another season on the circuit with great results. Otherwise, he would be a great part of a coaching team but wouldn't be an all round coach.
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/feb/14/olympics-jeremy-abbott-choking-skating/
“I just want to put my middle finger in the air and say a big ‘F-you’ to anyone who’s ever said that to me, because they’ve never stood in my shoes and they’ve never had to do what I do,” said Abbott, 28, who is expected to retire after this season. “Nobody has to stand center ice in front of a million people and put an entire career on the line for eight minutes of their life when they’ve been doing it for 20-some years.
“If you think that’s not hard, then you’re a damn idiot. Some people can handle it better than others, but everyone has that mental struggle. Everyone goes through the same doubt. I’m not alone. Everyone has their highs and their lows, and they just come at different moments. You know, some people have their moment at the Olympics and some people have theirs at the national championships.
“I’m proud to be standing here. I’m a four-time national champion, I’m a two-time Olympian, and no one can take that away from me. Whatever people have to say about me, that’s their own problem. I’m frickin’ proud of what I’ve done, and I’m not going to apologize for anything.”
WAW! He really was angry.
A comment below: Well said! But in the Olympics you choke!
Thanks Kwan.
It's understandable that he's reluctant to leave skating. Dorothy Hamill (not that Jeremy's skills are equivalent to hers) said recently that she realized after the Olympics that she would probably never again find something to do at which she was one of the world's best. Even though Jeremy isn't really one of the world's best, he still excels in this in a way that will not come soon to him in any other pursuit. (Unless, as some of you have pointed out, he gives choreography a try.) The kind of sunup-to-sundown total devotion that skating takes these days is not easily given up or replaced by anything else. There has to be a certain fear and possibly even a feeling of bereavement involved.
But I hope Jeremy doesn't delude himself into thinking that at this stage, he can improve his skating relative to his rivals who are out there now. Well, we'll see how this turns out.
Agree^
I wonder if he does decide to stay in will he recycle that same sappy LP where he looks off into the distance, I don't think I can stomach it anymore.
I do believe that it is possible to develop a new career and do it well.
While he does have great style, I re-watched many of his programs and decided he didn't have enough content and substance. I realized I loved the music of Lilies of the Valley and Muse more than I loved his skating...
Yes, "Fumie Delusional Syndrome" needs to be copyrighted...
I think he'll retire because he skates in pain.
That said-
He had several personal bests this season
He'll be seeded on the GP- if he does well, his PCS will improve
Top 3 at Worlds? Probably not, unless he gets another Quad in his long. (but none of the other US men are top 3 material either)
It depends on his goals....
(this year he was probably thinking of nothing but Socchi, so another year would give him time to plan)
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And he was answering a rude question from a reporter while in pain, having skated his LP when even his coach didn't expect him to be able to do it due to his injuries. Good for him for saying what he wanted to after years of attacks. (and he did ask permission) Read the whole thing in context....
IF we had multiple US men on the way up with quads and skating skills....I might feel differently. But the US is just not there yet.
Plus- I'd love to see him skate a competitive program to lyrics
Sure--Debi Thomas, Michelle Kwan, and Sasha Cohen are just a few off the top of my head, but I know there are more. Is Paul Wylie a lawyer? I feel like he is. The discipline that comes from elite level skating can be applied to many careers. It's just having the interest/courage to go after it.
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/feb/14/olympics-jeremy-abbott-choking-skating/
“I just want to put my middle finger in the air and say a big ‘F-you’ to anyone who’s ever said that to me, because they’ve never stood in my shoes and they’ve never had to do what I do,” said Abbott, 28, who is expected to retire after this season. “Nobody has to stand center ice in front of a million people and put an entire career on the line for eight minutes of their life when they’ve been doing it for 20-some years.
“If you think that’s not hard, then you’re a damn idiot. Some people can handle it better than others, but everyone has that mental struggle. Everyone goes through the same doubt. I’m not alone. Everyone has their highs and their lows, and they just come at different moments. You know, some people have their moment at the Olympics and some people have theirs at the national championships.
“I’m proud to be standing here. I’m a four-time national champion, I’m a two-time Olympian, and no one can take that away from me. Whatever people have to say about me, that’s their own problem. I’m frickin’ proud of what I’ve done, and I’m not going to apologize for anything.”
:agree:
As for the last two posters I have quoted. Have you been in his shoes? Have you seen the crap that he gets thrown at him more than any other skater? Obviously not, because here are you and many others in this thread throwing just as much crap at him. He spoke out, but only after he asked permission and got it from the official in charge of USOC(?) publicity(as I recall.) It's a sad right now that someone with immense talent like Jeremy is out there doing pretty remarkable things at his age, yet skaters like Hanyu, Chan, and many others can't stand up half the time but are handed gold medals for it at international events, including the Olympics. The only ones that impressed me at the last two Worlds and Olympics was Denis Ten and Javier Fernandez. At least at the Olympics Abbott had the guts to stand up after a terrible fall and continue and amazingly at that. Many others would have gone over to the officials and pulled themselves from the competition. He is heads above others as far as creativity and artistry are concerned. I am so tired of seeing the same old boring junk programs that end up being splat fests because no one is creative anymore they just jump and flail.
The only reason I feel that he should retire versus remaining competitive is if his body is telling him otherwise. Skating in pain is not something anyone needs to be doing. That said-
I agree with a previous poster who said it's Jeremy's decision to do what he wants to. Like it or not, it's not up to all of you. I'm sickened when I come into these threads and wonder many times why I continue to when 90% of it is posters with negative Nancy syndrome. :disapp: :scowl:
[As for the last two posters I have quoted. Have you been in his shoes? Have you seen the crap that he gets thrown at him more than any other skater? Obviously not, because here are you and many others in this thread throwing just as much crap at him. He spoke out, but only after he asked permission and got it from the official in charge of USOC(?) publicity(as I recall.) It's a sad right now that someone with immense talent like Jeremy is out there doing pretty remarkable things at his age, yet skaters like Hanyu, Chan, and many others can't stand up half the time but are handed gold medals for it at international events, including the Olympics. The only ones that impressed me at the last two Worlds and Olympics was Denis Ten and Javier Fernandez. At least at the Olympics Abbott had the guts to stand up after a terrible fall and continue and amazingly at that. Many others would have gone over to the officials and pulled themselves from the competition. He is heads above others as far as creativity and artistry are concerned. I am so tired of seeing the same old boring junk programs that end up being splat fests because no one is creative anymore they just jump and flail.
The only reason I feel that he should retire versus remaining competitive is if his body is telling him otherwise. Skating in pain is not something anyone needs to be doing. That said-
I agree with a previous poster who said it's Jeremy's decision to do what he wants to. Like it or not, it's not up to all of you. I'm sickened when I come into these threads and wonder many times why I continue to when 90% of it is posters with negative Nancy syndrome. :disapp: :scowl:
You are completely entitled to your opinion as I am with mine. We are all never going to all love the same skaters, it is impossible. It will never happen. But really if we did this forum would be rather dull. As I said I was a huge fan of Abbott at one time.
I find his that his comments make him sounds like a petulant child, of course I have never stood center ice in front of millions, that is not the point. He is an elite skater who has been around for a long time, he is a world class athlete, he is going to be talked about. Go to any sports bar anywhere and tell those watching the games that they are not allowed to comment on the players because they've never played the game..let me know what kind of response you get.
It is clear you are fond of Jeremy, that is great, enjoy it but that doesn't mean that I have to be fond of him as well.
If he thinks the usfsa will send him to another Worlds, he is even more delusional than I thought.