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LOL, I hate snakes!! I don't know why someone threw a shoe instead of a stuffed animal.. I wonder he or she was mad that Mao didn't skate clean?shoe...snake... ??? yeah, I see the similarities there..
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LOL, I hate snakes!! I don't know why someone threw a shoe instead of a stuffed animal.. I wonder he or she was mad that Mao didn't skate clean?shoe...snake... ??? yeah, I see the similarities there..
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I don't know why someone threw a shoe instead of a stuffed animal.. I wonder he or she was mad that Mao didn't skate clean?
The scoring at this event was so high. Protocols should be interesting.
I found Kostner's score to be the most inflated (as always). She made 3 mistakes and still got a 63??
I was talking to Japanese friends on the phone today. She has told me that she heard that crazy rumor,but it was a stuffed animal thrown for Mao on the ice. I do not think anyone would ever throw shoes on the ice.
I dunno...let's face it, after all, if the US had three spots this year, Caroline would be skating tonight. And, frankly, I think her and Flatt would have given us the best chance at three Olympic spots. So, not having that third spot really hurts for SOMEBODY. Besides, the past two Olympic champions (Arakawa, Hughes) got there via that very third spot.
A lot can happen in a year. Last year Nagasu was national champ, this year she's nowhere to be found. I agree that Rachel is the most consistent of the Americans thus far, and barring injury, will be in the fight for an Olympic spot, but you know...I don't care if Alyssa wins again next year, I would NEVER, EVER even THINK about sending her to the pressure-cooker that is the Olympic Games, which has unnerved even solid competitors in the past. Look what happened last night. In Vancouver she would have self-destructed!! Probably would have fallen on every jump!
Caroline just got unlucky this year. The timing was bad. I meant for next year though. Of course not having 3 spots will affect somebody. And I'm a big believer in that life experience for the 3rd girl, but my statement was regarding Caroline's chances only. As of the end of this season, anyway. I realize a lot can change next season.
Maybe Mao was unleashing weapons of mass rotation in their country.
All I'm saying is Yu-na has lost that ethereal quality about her which was why I enjoyed her expression and artistry compared to her competitors. Now, I prefer watching Mao and Carolina to Yu-na. Mao was elegant and graceful. Carolina was stylish. Yu-na... her jumps were great and interpretation great but somewhat... I don't know generic, too standard? .
I totally agree with you, fourclover. Yu-na did skate really well and she deserves the first place. But I am feeling something is missing. I do not know what exactly it is. I often ask myself if I would love to watch each skaters program if there were no jumps in it. And many times I do find some skaters that only impress me only because of jumps. I definitely would have loved to watch Michelle's and Sasha's without jumps. Would I have loved Yu-na's program if there were no triple triple combinations? I do no know.....I feel delicacy and profoundness more in Mao and Caroline Zhang's skating. Yu-na , to me, she has lost it. It almost like I see arrogance (not confidence) in her skating. (Do not get me wrong I am sure she is not an arrogant person!) I also CAN NOT wait Rachael for next season. With the experience form The worlds this year, I know she is going to be a kind of skater whom I would love to see whether there are jumps or not. Caroline and Mirai do have that potential, too. Do not worry American fans. American ladies will come back as strong team as ever.
I think the marks were high and as someone pointed out were surprising the skaters but Suguri and Phaneuf have definitely been robbed by Flatt and Czisny.
Ant
I read in a japanese paper that After Mao skated her SP, someone threw a shoe on the ice... Mao didn't notice because there are flowers and other stuff thrown at the same time. Glad that it wasn't a snake or something, I would scream and run!
I do not get why many people here pick on Rachel so much. She was not worse from the rest of bunch (places 5-11). She made similar mistakes as others. Her spins in the SP were quite good this time. Saying tha she robbed Fumie is beyond ridiculous. Fumie finished behind the music, had few wobbles, and, apart from that, her expression is just not there any more... I found her program boring, whereas Rachel is very fresh and joyfull. Fumie does not have spark any more.
Many ladies were overscored, but some more than the others. I don't understand Lepisto score. Although she is lovely to watch, there is no way that a skater with 3T-2T and a mistake in the step sequence could be placed in the final group. Look at Elena Glebova (for example), with a lovely 3T-3T, no major mistake, good levels on other elements and pleasant skate too. How come Lepisto ended up 7 places above her??
I completely agree with this - I thought her LP was just jump checking (which is how I always feel about Miki) but this SP had real character and she paid attention to the music!I liked Miki's SP.. I rarely enjoy her, but I did.
I suppose it's just the different tastes that people have. I've only ever seen Flatt's skates on youtube until now and have always been suprised by people's comments on her musicality etc because i see none. I didn't find her SP interesting at all (haven't watched the LP) and found it quite boring and very middle of the road. I thought Fumie skated better than her in every way and i've normally found Fumie's skating to be pretty boring.
I think Lepisto benefitted from being European Champion! She did skate pretty well but she does tend to pop the 3/3. Glebova was undermarked I agree and i would have had both Lepitso and Flatt behind her.
Fumie had far too many glitches in her FS to be placed over Flatt. Maybe you don't like Flatt, but she did complete 6 clean triples; give credit where credit is due.
Fumie, OTOH, got edge calls on both of her lutzes (Rachael got none), did an underrotated 2S, and didn't do her second 3F in combination. In all, she landed only two clean triples. Rachael also got higher levels than Fumie in spins and spiral. IMO (and the judges, who placed Fumie 9th to Rachael's 5th) Fumie did NOT skate better than Rachael in ANY way.
As for Glebova being undermarked, what performance were you looking at?
I completely agree with this - I thought her LP was just jump checking (which is how I always feel about Miki) but this SP had real character and she paid attention to the music!
Ant
I even liked her Morozovian costume for her SP. SEriously. I found these pink flowers going extremely well with navy blue dress. It was interesting!
Welcome to the forum, Jaws, and thank you for an insightful post.
Still though, confidence is not enough. You still need that natural ability to pull an audience in, and if you don't have that, you'll still come across as plain (Rachel Flatt at Nats, for example).