2016 Skate Canada Men's SP

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Yikes - just checked into this thread after checking the results thread. GOOOOOO Patrick. I don't even care how he got there.....glad to see he's in 1st place. Poor US Men. Must have been pretty awful. I taped the competition but it won't show until tomorrow.

Glad to see Kevin doing well.

Well, I would have rather seen Chan in first not because of a field meltdown.

It's funny that people are so quick to say for other skaters "When he goes clean, he scores _____ so it was the right score"... but when Chan gets a 90 with a fall and every jump rotated cleanly otherwise - and his personal best is 98.52 - everyone is up in arms, lol.

 

[rollerblade]

Patrick had a gorgeous 4T/3T, landed his 3Lz and had superb skating, choreography, and performance. The only flaw was the fall on a rotated 3A. Mura stayed on his feet, quite a feat for an evening like this one, but should lose on the low quality of his quad, spins and program.

Mura's stepped-out quad got him -2.86 GOE. In fact, his 4T earned him about half a point more than Patrick's not-so-great 3Z. hwell:

 

[Violet Bliss]

Men have tried so hard to spin in the air they neglected spinning on the ice, and perhaps other on ice skills too, such as skating.

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Mura's stepped-out quad got him -2.86 GOE. In fact, his 4T earned him about half a point more than Patrick's not-so-great 3Z. hwell:

That was super harsh... but I'm guessing the -2/-3s are due to the lack of preceding steps because the quad combo essentially became his solo jump. A stepout + no preceding steps = -2 or -3.

 

[EdgeCall]

Skate Canada standings after SP:

Men:
1. CAN
2. JPN
3. CAN

Ladies:
1. RUS
2. CAN
3. RUS

Pairs:
1. CAN
2. CHN
3. CAN

Dance:
1. CAN
2. USA
3. CAN

Weird pattern ... :think:

 

[Violet Bliss]

Skate Canada standings after SP:

Men:
1. CAN
2. JPN
3. CAN

Ladies:
1. RUS
2. CAN
3. RUS

Pairs:
1. CAN
2. CHN
3. CAN

Dance:
1. CAN
2. USA
3. CAN

Weird pattern ... :think:

Canada's A Team is here, after a practice at Finlandia.

 

[4everchan]

Mura's stepped-out quad got him -2.86 GOE. In fact, his 4T earned him about half a point more than Patrick's not-so-great 3Z. hwell:

not so great, i agree.. but hanging on tightly to a landing which still flows is much better than the kind of STOPPED landing Mura showed. I have been very vocal on how I felt Mura was underscored in a previous competition when he went clean. Here, compared to the field, he looked cleaner but he still wasn't and those level 2 spins and footwork gotta hurt... I wish him a great skate in the FP though

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Skate Canada standings after SP:

Men:
1. CAN
2. JPN
3. CAN

Ladies:
1. RUS
2. CAN
3. RUS

Pairs:
1. CAN
2. CHN
3. CAN

Dance:
1. CAN
2. USA
3. CAN

Weird pattern ... :think:

I think that'll change in the FS. You'd have to imagine G/P will get surpassed by the Italians, and I don't know if I/M can hold off both the Americans/Russians (here's hoping). Still, it's kinda crazy to see Canada leading 3/4 disciplines and 2nd in the other...

And I thought Skate America was successful for the Americans! Hope I don't jinx it for the Canucks!

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

patrick lost a lot of levels too

I remember looking at his footwork and not all of the turns were quite there (e.g. his outside loop, and some of his turn series could have been crisper, I also don't think he had enough turns/steps in each direction to merit a level 4 even it was performed beautifully). As far as the final spin, I'm guessing he didn't hold his back cannonball sit just a tad, but otherwise I thought that spin should have been level 4.

 

[xibsuarz]

Fun/depressing fact:

Out of 36 planned jumping passes among all the men, only 10 jumping passes got +GOE.

Such a shame given all the talented skaters competing here.

 

[4everchan]

he seemed cautious and slower than usual to me, so perhaps he couldn't hang on to the spin positions longer.. anyways, looking forward to seeing the Lps of everyone tomorrow...

I remember looking at his footwork and not all of the turns were quite there (e.g. his outside loop, and some of his turn series could have been crisper, I also don't think he had enough turns/steps in each direction to merit a level 4 even it was performed beautifully). As far as the final spin, I'm guessing he didn't hold his back cannonball sit just a tad, but otherwise I thought that spin should have been level 4.

 

[Violet Bliss]

he seemed cautious and slower than usual to me, so perhaps he couldn't hang on to the spin positions longer.. anyways, looking forward to seeing the Lps of everyone tomorrow...

He was more cautious than we've seen him perform this program in earlier versions and partially in practice. I think he also got behind the music a little after the fall. However, his performance was still miles ahead of everybody else in a night like this one.

 

[4everchan]

:agree:

He was more cautious than we've seen him perform this program. I think he also got behind the music a little after the fall. However, his performance was still miles ahead of everybody else in a night like this one.

 

[Violet Bliss]

Such a shame given all the talented skaters competing here.

I believe there will be a few redemptions tomorrow. The LP segment just may turn out to be a great night of competition.

 

[msteach3]

Super disappointing Men's event. I was in a great mood last weekend watching SA and thinking the season was off to an exceptionally good start and hopefully was a sign of great things to come. I guess not. :noshake: I think the scores and standings are correct. Hopefully the men will pull it together tomorrow.

 

[VIETgrlTerifa]

Is it me or has Patrick Chan become sort of a stud and gotten really attractive since his come back last season?

 

[Krunchii]

Patrick Chan and Yuzuru Hanyu were head and shoulders above the rest in PCS, Yuzuru's ability to gain speed is excellent but he didn't really look completely there however he lit up like a light bulb for the step sequence. Patrick's speed and ice coverage was just sublime, his edges are so so deep and he's so smooth across the ice.

 

[4everchan]

not just you... i am

Is it me or has Patrick Chan become sort of a stud and gotten really attractive since his come back last season?

 

[Wo|flax]

Mura's stepped-out quad got him -2.86 GOE. In fact, his 4T earned him about half a point more than Patrick's not-so-great 3Z. hwell:

Mura and Kevin both frontloaded the jumps; Patricks 3Lz is in the second half. Yuzuru's 3A (also 2nd half) got more points than any of Kevins or Muras jumping passes.(and Mura didn't have preceding steps, he really should plan that, just in case he misses the combo, i mean this is the guy thats tried 4T4T, he can plan steps to a Quad combo, on the otherhand, safety apparently helped with consistency.

Though in my heart/gut I want Mura and Kevin to be scored higher, but I've seen worse scoring.

 

[VIETgrlTerifa]

Patrick Chan and Yuzuru Hanyu were head and shoulders above the rest in PCS, Yuzuru's ability to gain speed is excellent but he didn't really look completely there however he lit up like a light bulb for the step sequence. Patrick's speed and ice coverage was just sublime, his edges are so so deep and he's so smooth across the ice.

Oh yeah definitely. That was really obvious. I think Hanyu's Prince routine has real potential and I think it'll be an excellent program by season's end. I think Yuzuru has the attitude down and he'll grow into it even more. Chan's skating is simply sublime and I'm loving how he's performing since his come back. Last Olympic cycle, I respected his skating skills immensely but didn't like him as a performer, but now I love him as a performer.