2015 Four Continents Ladies SP Feb 13 Seoul Time

[Red Helicopter]

Miyahara's scores are shocking: 3 clearly underrorated triple jumps of 3 - and not even single UR in protocol. Her real score is 7-8 points less.
I'll not be surprised if one day we'll see Olympic Champion with 10 underrotated jumps in both programs.

 

[cheerknithanson]

I really hope so! She has to make sure and had no UR and no falls. She has potential! 6th place out of 19! that's really good!

 

[Violet Bliss]

To her credit it's probably one of the more graceful board recoveries I've seen

She didn't actually crash into the board and have to pick herself up.

The Singles SPs rub in the facts that currently the best Ladies are Russians and that, except for Fernandez, Men's Worlds medal contenders are outside the Euro zone. Let's hope the Ladies LPs will be more inspirational.

 

[Interspectator]

So happy for Satoko. I liked her performance at Nationals better than this one, as she seemed to have more speed then, but she didn't fall, and I love her delicate style.
Rika was solid today, as she has been all year. And this has been a tremendous surprise to me. Last season, and the year before she did not seem to be improving very much. Suddenly, she is stable, more confident, able to land her jumps...it's pretty amazing. She has yet to do a program I can actually like, but I like her a lot.

I LOVED Zijun Li! I'm glad she is in the running for a medal. She still looks frail to me, but please, please keep it together for the FS.

The Canadian girls were fun to watch too.
Overall, it was pretty interesting to watch. Not a disaster by any means.

 

[Meoima]

Miyahara's scores are shocking: 3 clearly underrorated triple jumps of 3 - and not even single UR in protocol. Her real score is 7-8 points less.
I'll not be surprised if one day we'll see Olympic Champion with 10 underrotated jumps in both programs.

Well... it's only in 4CC where JSF has strong influence.

 

[matmuh]

Well... it's only in 4CC where JSF has strong influence.

i doubt it has anything to do with JSF, everyone said japanese skaters would get goe+pcs boost at NHK and that didnt happen, plus they had pretty strict tech caller for nationals, dont think they had any effect at all, considering 4CC is at korea, besides i am no expert but only 3T looked on border to me, other jumps were fine, they were hard on her this season since the beginning, they might give her benefit of doubt

 

[Interspectator]

Well... it's only in 4CC where JSF has strong influence.

It seems absurd to me that they would have any kind of advantage in Korea...This is not their home country.

 

[Hanmgse]

Hi everyone!. Are there any videos already?

 

[matmuh]

Hi everyone!. Are there any videos already?

there are, thanks to sabinfire

 

[Hanmgse]

there are, thanks to sabinfire

Thank you! And Sabinfire

 

[Ekm]

It seems Polina has put herself in decent position to medal, she's had some strong free skates this season ( unfortunately she's typically been trying to dig herself out of the hole from the short).

 

[yyyskate]

It seems absurd to me that they would have any kind of advantage in Korea...This is not their home country.

it is power in ISU and Fed power, politics, behind scene deals, Korean and Chinese skaters rarely get any home inflation. Zijun gets higher PCS at Japan, and fans joked perhaps Japan is Zijun's home ice.
also, who is your countries no1, what discipline of what country in what event should medal... etc....

 

[Meoima]

It seems absurd to me that they would have any kind of advantage in Korea...This is not their home country.

+2GOE for Shoma's 3A and only 1.57 GOE for Joshua's excellent 3A.
I rest my case.

it is power in ISU and Fed power, politics, behind scene deals, Korean and Chinese skaters rarely get any home inflation. Zijun gets higher PCS at Japan, and fans joked perhaps Japan is Zijun's home ice.
also, who is your countries no1, what discipline of what country in what event should medal... etc....

I get the idea.

 

[s_parks]

It doesn't matter if they're in Korea, Korea doesn't have any power in figure skating.

 

[Interspectator]

it is power in ISU and Fed power, politics, behind scene deals, Korean and Chinese skaters rarely get any home inflation. Zijun gets higher PCS at Japan, and fans joked perhaps Japan is Zijun's home ice.
also, who is your countries no1, what discipline of what country in what event should medal... etc....

It's fine to joke about it...but is there any real proof other than a skater getting higher scores than someone thinks is deserved? In that case, Gracie also got some sort of underhanded advantage? It just seems like an easy phrase to throw around when one doesn't agree with the scores. 'No one can prove or disprove it so why not just say that the Federations are dishonest?'

I don't have inside knowledge of how Feds work, so this is a serious question.

 

[NaVi]

i doubt it has anything to do with JSF, everyone said japanese skaters would get goe+pcs boost at NHK and that didnt happen, plus they had pretty strict tech caller for nationals, dont think they had any effect at all, considering 4CC is at korea, besides i am no expert but only 3T looked on border to me, other jumps were fine, they were hard on her this season since the beginning, they might give her benefit of doubt

I'm not good at these things, but looking at it now from youtube all of her jumps look borderline underrotated to me except her 2A. I don't really have a problem with not calling it but I also don't think she's completely solved the issue.

 

[Junstella]

It doesn't matter if they're in Korea, Korea doesn't have any power in figure skating.

And apparently they have no power here either. Nobody remember how Sochi crowds treated those top-level skaters but still blaming audiences just for holding some pieces of banner.

What makes me even more shocked is how KSU banned Korean FS fans hanging placard. They said there was no Sochi-related thing, then what are they afraid of?

 

[cooper]

It seems absurd to me that they would have any kind of advantage in Korea...This is not their home country.

and what makes you think korea cares? i highly doubt the korean public and the KSU cares about 4cc and the judging here..even if it's held in seoul.. been there done that..

 

[Interspectator]

and what makes you think korea cares? i highly doubt the korean public and the KSU cares about 4cc and the judging here..even if it's held in seoul.. been there done that..

The point is, I don't think that Korea FED 'caring' or 'not caring' has anything to do with the scores here. -Not until there is actual proof of the fact one way or another. The skaters skated the way the skated. Satoko skated a clean, difficult, program. So, she is in the lead. -And not even by very much. It doesn't seem unfair to me.

 

[chloepoco]

Can we stop with these corruption theories? Do you have any proof of behind the scene deals, etc?