Just like people say "the colour XY is the new colour AB", I think it could be said "Anna is the new Zhenya", when it comes to the zealousness of those who just want to convince the whole world about her "bad edges" or prerotations. Yes, Anna's edges are not always perfect, though most of the time they are fine. Just like other tens of the top skaters. The same with prerotations, nothing that wouldn't be in the tolerance, just like with many other skaters. So I would like to say there is a difference between the reasonable objections and the eager sacrifice of the scapegoat on the altar of the god of a "textbook technique".
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It's why I find humour in how much these debates drag on.
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Edwin, you are an enthusiastic skating fan with wide interests and extensive knowledge,. But lately you seem to have compressed yourself into a Johnny-one-note Plushenko-basher. Let's just see what develops going forward.
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Anyone have news on where/when Panova’s group will start training?
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Sasha Trusova and the Contract with the Devil, or how the brand “Pupils of Tutberidze” differs from the brand “Russian Show Business Heavy DeLuxe”
All last year I admired our beautiful skaters. The hegemony of Trusova, Shcherbakova and Kostornaya was so obvious that it caused delight. And the fact that the girls are so different from each other, so individual, and the beauty in this dissimilarity gave their competition an unprecedented intensity of passions. I had suspicions that one of the three of them could not stand such a struggle ...
But the departure of Sasha Trusova from Eteri Tutberidze still felt like a bolt out of the blue. And yes, I could understand everything. The hardest rivalry within the group, the bad season. These are all objective reasons that can prompt an athlete to take such a serious step. I do not like to put stamps on people, I always try to understand why a person made this or that decision. I even understood the departure of Zhenya Medvyedeva, and if not for her further words and actions, I would continue to support her. But Zhenya left while already two-time World Champion, who lost the most important battle. She left at the time of the strongest blow to her vanity (and with her ambitions and understanding that the ultra-si generation was growing up behind her, it really was like death). And she went to Orser. A famous coach, who led to the Golden awards of the largest tournaments, not a single skater. (or more than one, the original text is unclear to me)
And Sasha just left after one “unsuccessful season”, in which she collected Bronzes at all the largest tournaments, she left having almost all quadruples and an almost ready triksel in the arsenal. And to whom? Leavingr for Mishin, Vodorezova, and at least for Harutyunyan, if our coaches did not want to take an athlete from Khrustalniy to them, realising what anger would fall upon them in case of failure, I would understand. But she moved to the Academy of Plyushenko’s Angels, and no matter how ironic it seems — she signed a contract with the devil.
I was inspired to write this article by an interview with the IG Trusova Team, which after watching made me want to shout: "Sasha, how can you do this! Do you really not understand that for the sake of earning a couple of three figures in dollars, Rudkovskaya will make you go through all nine circles of the hell of the Russian show business?"
I will never believe that 'little attention' was paid to her in the Tutberidze group. And a recent interview with Sima Sakhanovich, where she says that “While riding with Eteri Georgievna, I felt care and protection,” confirms my point of view.
Especially indicative of this moment for me is the video from the show where Gleikhengauz circles on the ice with Sasha in his arms. When she didn’t get her crown quadruple for a long time,
she jumped him until the moment it worked out in the skills battle. But she was clearly annoyed by her failures. Everyone has long known what a maximalist Sasha is, so in order to distract and amuse the girl the trainer just grabbed her in his arms and swirled.
Watch this video from 9-10 minutes: https://youtu.be/xzDV8Pe7GI4
Will Plyushchenko also carry Sasha in his arms? Considering that he and little GnomGnomich do not indulge lightly in affection, the answer is obvious. And it makes me sad.
Maybe Sergey Rozanov, whose strong coaching shoulder so often helped her in the past? But he has the Zhilina sisters, who are fully considered his athletes. He will obviously bet on them. After all, no matter what further heights Sasha might reach, a distinctive “Tutberidze train”, unneeded by Rozanov, would still trail her. And as time has shown, he is extremely ambitious and is unlikely to want to invest too much effort in "not his product".
If it works out - very well, it not - she did already come with the wrong technique and a broken psyche.
But it was a digression. The cry of the soul of the author. You could even say that my first thoughts were described above after I learned about the transition.
Awareness of much more terrible things came much later. When watching Sasha’s interview with Kommandnaya.
Eteri Georgiyevna is a proud woman who knows the value of herself and knows the value of her beautiful students. There is this photo shoot, then a feature in Tatler, a contract with Shiseido. This is the level that our girls deserve! They are admired by the whole world.
Athlete of Tutberidze is a brand.
They appear on the covers of world famous magazines, such as Yuliya Lipnitskaya and The Times. Famous brands sign contracts with them- Alina and Shiseido. They are admired by world celebrities - again Yuliya and Steven Spielberg or the same Trusova and leader of the Muse group, Matthew Bellamy. Figure skaters of Tutberidze is an international recognition, like Diaghilev's “Russian Seasons”. She makes stars out of the athletes and selects contracts and offers that correspond to their status.
But what about Rudkovskaya? This is a woman from the services and entertainments of Sochi. Like in that bearded anecdote, where a resourceful Armenian had a poor monkey photographed with tourists for another three days after his death. And it hurts so much that Sasha straight from the cover of Tatler goes "taking pictures with the curious." But she is not a monkey! She is a world star, the “Russian Rocket,” who deserves the best.
But no. Now Sasha will advertise English schools, shoot Tik Toks with GnomGnomich and, again, with poor GnomGnomich, labour in the mines of the Plushchyenko shows. And sport has nothing to do with it. After all, this is their business.
And knowing that Yana Rudkovskaya is far from a first year rookie in show business and has a whole army of lawyers, I’m afraid that the contract with the Trusov family was signed in such a way that Sasha will only flutter in Plyushchenko Angels' paradise without wings and without any prospects in sports.
It hurts, it's a shame. I really hope that it will not turn out this way. But previous experience so far has shown that not one single "Angel" has taken off ....
(c) koheyri
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From: https://www.sports.ru/profile/1036042537/
IMO excellent blog posting that fully corresponds with my feelings. Mr Trusov, what have you done?
All last year I admired our beautiful skaters. The hegemony of Trusova, Shcherbakova and Kostornaya was so obvious that it caused delight. And the fact that the girls are so different from each other, so individual, and the beauty in this dissimilarity gave their competition an unprecedented intensity of passions. I had suspicions that one of the three of them could not stand such a struggle ...
But the departure of Sasha Trusova from Eteri Tutberidze still felt like a bolt out of the blue. And yes, I could understand everything. The hardest rivalry within the group, the bad season. These are all objective reasons that can prompt an athlete to take such a serious step. I do not like to put stamps on people, I always try to understand why a person made this or that decision. I even understood the departure of Zhenya Medvyedeva, and if not for her further words and actions, I would continue to support her. But Zhenya left while already two-time World Champion, who lost the most important battle. She left at the time of the strongest blow to her vanity (and with her ambitions and understanding that the ultra-si generation was growing up behind her, it really was like death). And she went to Orser. A famous coach, who led to the Golden awards of the largest tournaments, not a single skater. (or more than one, the original text is unclear to me)
And Sasha just left after one “unsuccessful season”, in which she collected Bronzes at all the largest tournaments, she left having almost all quadruples and an almost ready triksel in the arsenal. And to whom? Leavingr for Mishin, Vodorezova, and at least for Harutyunyan, if our coaches did not want to take an athlete from Khrustalniy to them, realising what anger would fall upon them in case of failure, I would understand. But she moved to the Academy of Plyushenko’s Angels, and no matter how ironic it seems — she signed a contract with the devil.
I was inspired to write this article by an interview with the IG Trusova Team, which after watching made me want to shout: "Sasha, how can you do this! Do you really not understand that for the sake of earning a couple of three figures in dollars, Rudkovskaya will make you go through all nine circles of the hell of the Russian show business?"
I will never believe that 'little attention' was paid to her in the Tutberidze group. And a recent interview with Sima Sakhanovich, where she says that “While riding with Eteri Georgievna, I felt care and protection,” confirms my point of view.
Especially indicative of this moment for me is the video from the show where Gleikhengauz circles on the ice with Sasha in his arms. When she didn’t get her crown quadruple for a long time,
she jumped him until the moment it worked out in the skills battle. But she was clearly annoyed by her failures. Everyone has long known what a maximalist Sasha is, so in order to distract and amuse the girl the trainer just grabbed her in his arms and swirled.
Watch this video from 9-10 minutes: https://youtu.be/xzDV8Pe7GI4
Will Plyushchenko also carry Sasha in his arms? Considering that he and little GnomGnomich do not indulge lightly in affection, the answer is obvious. And it makes me sad.
Maybe Sergey Rozanov, whose strong coaching shoulder so often helped her in the past? But he has the Zhilina sisters, who are fully considered his athletes. He will obviously bet on them. After all, no matter what further heights Sasha might reach, a distinctive “Tutberidze train”, unneeded by Rozanov, would still trail her. And as time has shown, he is extremely ambitious and is unlikely to want to invest too much effort in "not his product".
If it works out - very well, it not - she did already come with the wrong technique and a broken psyche.
But it was a digression. The cry of the soul of the author. You could even say that my first thoughts were described above after I learned about the transition.
Awareness of much more terrible things came much later. When watching Sasha’s interview with Kommandnaya.
Eteri Georgiyevna is a proud woman who knows the value of herself and knows the value of her beautiful students. There is this photo shoot, then a feature in Tatler, a contract with Shiseido. This is the level that our girls deserve! They are admired by the whole world.
Athlete of Tutberidze is a brand.
They appear on the covers of world famous magazines, such as Yuliya Lipnitskaya and The Times. Famous brands sign contracts with them- Alina and Shiseido. They are admired by world celebrities - again Yuliya and Steven Spielberg or the same Trusova and leader of the Muse group, Matthew Bellamy. Figure skaters of Tutberidze is an international recognition, like Diaghilev's “Russian Seasons”. She makes stars out of the athletes and selects contracts and offers that correspond to their status.
But what about Rudkovskaya? This is a woman from the services and entertainments of Sochi. Like in that bearded anecdote, where a resourceful Armenian had a poor monkey photographed with tourists for another three days after his death. And it hurts so much that Sasha straight from the cover of Tatler goes "taking pictures with the curious." But she is not a monkey! She is a world star, the “Russian Rocket,” who deserves the best.
But no. Now Sasha will advertise English schools, shoot Tik Toks with GnomGnomich and, again, with poor GnomGnomich, labour in the mines of the Plushchyenko shows. And sport has nothing to do with it. After all, this is their business.
And knowing that Yana Rudkovskaya is far from a first year rookie in show business and has a whole army of lawyers, I’m afraid that the contract with the Trusov family was signed in such a way that Sasha will only flutter in Plyushchenko Angels' paradise without wings and without any prospects in sports.
It hurts, it's a shame. I really hope that it will not turn out this way. But previous experience so far has shown that not one single "Angel" has taken off ....
(c) koheyri
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From: https://www.sports.ru/profile/1036042537/
IMO excellent blog posting that fully corresponds with my feelings. Mr Trusov, what have you done?
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Calm down Edwin. You came back now and immediately continue the incomprehensible attacks. Plus, they're not original.
You stole these from the sport.ru forum, from some obsessed fools. :yes: I read them. 
I recommend you go back and continue it there because that is very common. There are more smart posters here. 
When do you learn the sports.ru forum is not the benchmark, that is not the source of all truths ? On the contrary I have never read so many lyings and ignorancies. According to some old posters the forum's standard has gone down in last years. When did you register? They are in Kislovodsk for almost one week they didn't show anything but many of us were very curious. Plushenko showed this video and you are yelling! Ridiculous.
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The development will be exactly the same as with any commercial team. Players are owned, bought, sold, and exploited, win bonuses, pay fines, get publicly scolded, benched when speaking up against their owner, besides having to fulfil all kinds of commercial sideline obligations, always smiling and keeping up appearances for promotion of their owner and his club.
The transfer is not about Trusova at all, but to make the Academy look like a viable alternative to the skate schools, to make Plyushchenko look better as trainer/coach for others than spoiled kids from rich parents, and of course to make money.
For the sake of personal development of both the owner and his young players it is a very interesting subject to close follow from the moral, ethical, sociological, pedagogical, economical and human interest point of view.
The characters of both Plyushchenko and Rudkovskaya make it all the more interesting, and there will be continued coverage on all levels of press and media.
Starting with Plyushchenko's own social media outlets. The contrast with #TeamTutberidzeForProgress in public behaviour cannot be greater.
After all, it's the dawn of a new era: competition in the Russian figure skating between state schools and private businesses.
I remember Rozanov's interview back in time, when Akatieva was beaten by Samodelkina or Rubtsova by Titova in some local tournament and he sounded irritated when asked by journalist about that. Didn't say anything like "chill out dude, these are just kids, it's no big deal", instead he started to explain himself and the skater. I'm pretty sure, every competition even on the lowest level counts in Eteri's camp.on another note, I have never seen any news about new coach in TT to replace Rozanov... strange.
especially considering that novices will be important battleground in the Tutberidze-Plushenko "war"
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What about Rudkovskaya? She didn't care about Sasha or the figure skating and there weren't any clear evidences that she did anything with Sasha. But the sports.ru forum posted news about her every day!!!!! Why? What she is doing, what she said, what she showed on her IG. Why??? I don't see anything from the show business in Sasha's case but I see how the sports. ru forum trying to connect with it. Shameful action.
I want to explain how some Russians thinking. They posted this video, of course. Some posters immediately wrote Rudkovskaya! was lying about Sasha's mother because she is there! ( Because Rudkovskaya wrote the answers in Sasha's interview
) Sasha said she will be alone in the camp in monday interview. Then the other posters wrote maybe Sasha herself is the liar because she said that but her mother is on the video with the dog. Those stupids don't know anything , we don't know anything, maybe when sSasha said it was true. But later her mother received a special permission to stay there. Who knows? But some Russians started to dirty her (and her parents). Edwin, stop to do it with Sasha :dev2:
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Lol.
Rudkovskaya is the worst ( I dunno frankly who is worse, Kirkorov probably?) of Russian celebrity/showbiz community and mind you, said community is cancer even at its absolute best. Obviously Russians are very hostile to any attempt of Show Business (especially Rudkovskayas of the world ) expanding into FS and for a good reason, unlike westerners for whom Likes of Sobchak, Kirkorov and Rudkovskaya are nobodies, Russians know their "talents" very well.
Rudkovskaya is the worst ( I dunno frankly who is worse, Kirkorov probably?) of Russian celebrity/showbiz community and mind you, said community is cancer even at its absolute best. Obviously Russians are very hostile to any attempt of Show Business (especially Rudkovskayas of the world ) expanding into FS and for a good reason, unlike westerners for whom Likes of Sobchak, Kirkorov and Rudkovskaya are nobodies, Russians know their "talents" very well.
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Perhaps, but not necessarily. I am certain the Trusovs have Aleksandra's best interest in mind. Both short term, i.e. her Olympic chances, and yes, perhaps her future in ice show business for the intermediate term, a couple of years after 2022 (or a even a few shows before the Olympics), or even permanently, who knows? I stand by my observation that Aleksandra can be the highlight of every ice show built around her, she has this star quality.
The rumour that two other parties rejected Aleksandra makes me sad, so according to himself, Plyushchenko kindly took her in.
The trainer-athlete relationship in #TeamTutberidzeForProgress is built on complete mutual trust, and the Trusovs found probably that Aleksandra was not given enough/proper attention. The peculiar behaviour of both Aleksandra and the trainers at 2019 Russian Nationals now tells tales and seems like the breaking point. it graces both parties they continued in full in the build up to the World Championships, Aleksandra's sporting character especially stood out to me.
"Why didn't you keep her in Juniors for one more year?" now was replaced by "Why did you give her the wrong programs and made her fall?", because both 'artists' Tutberidze and Gleikhengauz were negatively accented in the farewell messages, while 'technicians' Dudakov and Rozanov were praised, however Dudakov still got slighted.
We'll see how it all pans out for Aleksandra. The pandemic is still not under control in Russia, which means working with outside specialists, meeting parents, siblings and relatives in closed off training camps, travelling to competitions, even competitions themselves are all very uncertain. It certainly won't be easy for both kids and adults. Are there even female trainers around in Kislovodsk to attend to the particular needs of girls?
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The team probably needs a young, tall and strong man for the pole-and-harness. Maksim Kovtun springs into my mind, but him being a big name and celebrity in his own kind, probably puts him out of reach for Khrustalniy.
No doubt somebody will be found, invited to assessment, put on probation period and accepted into the team.
Like for aspiring skaters, becoming part of #TeamTutberidzeForProgress is a major career move for any young and aspiring trainer: working with the best kids and colleagues that will invest their knowledge in you.
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I doubt anybody Rejected Trusova, especially Raf, she is one of the greatest talents and every coach dreams of working with such talented skaters(in fact, she is so talented, I am actually worried as a TT fan that her gamble with Plushenko may actually work )
More likely IMO is Trusova asking guaranteed success from future coaches, Raf pretty much openly said he isn't giving that.
Who could tell Alexandra's Family "Sure, I guarantee you we will win everything right now" ? yeah, that narrows it down to one.
)More likely IMO is Trusova asking guaranteed success from future coaches, Raf pretty much openly said he isn't giving that.
Who could tell Alexandra's Family "Sure, I guarantee you we will win everything right now" ? yeah, that narrows it down to one.
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LOL. Honestly, who cares about Yana Rudkovskaya in this forum? Who cares about the other members of Russian show business you don't like? Weird.
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Where does this leave Konstantinova?
Not on any national team, not invited by Plyushchenko to Kislovodsk, rinks in Moscow and Sankt Peterburg still closed?
The #TeamPanova and #TeamDavydov skaters still haven't taken to the ice either, but when the Sirius complex in Sochi opens, a new opportunity arises.
Not on any national team, not invited by Plyushchenko to Kislovodsk, rinks in Moscow and Sankt Peterburg still closed?
The #TeamPanova and #TeamDavydov skaters still haven't taken to the ice either, but when the Sirius complex in Sochi opens, a new opportunity arises.
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