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Not sure if this has been talked about , but I thought about it after seeing Kagiyama's gorgeous quad salchows at NHK
Kagiyama does his salchow leading with the toe of the free leg. Other skaters who do it the same:
Chen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EgvZi4WBeQ#t=3m7s
Jin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyomxmuH79I#t=5m53s
Brezina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz_jA6WYVy0#t=4m20s
Tomono: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNCsQ-91Ddw#t=5m55s
Sadovsky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4F6IGrqx9k
Trusova does hers leading with the heel, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwMvv1xMrPA#t=1m10s , as does:
Hanyu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ms8jDSlWTU#t=8s
Tursynbaeva https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2ZUrmSG0fo#t=3m55s
Kovtun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6tZrF2op0E#t=5m35s
Fernandez https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYKoJ9w0Jd4#t=9s
Chan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4_mV97g_PM
Goebel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqux9QAteBs
Tara Lipinski also led with her heel, although hers is more of a "scooped" free leg instead of one that starts near the ice and drives up with the heel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGxYGVJvBAg#t=1m58s
I've always learned salchows with the free leg checked and then swinging through with the toes such that the feet sort of point inward to each other ("bowlegged" if you will) on takeoff, instead of the feet parallel to each other and leading with the free heel, but clearly there's more than one way to execute the jump. I really don't think there's any right or wrong, but this is an observation.
Is there a trend for quad salchows to lead with the heel moreso than the toe of the free leg and is there any benefit for one or the other from a jump mechanics standpoint (like does one get more height, a faster backspin, require more snap, etc.). Is there an aesthetic preference for people (trying to put aside whether it's your fave/non-fave doing said version of the technique)? Any skaters/coaches out there prefer doing it/teaching it one way instead of the other?
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Kagiyama does his salchow leading with the toe of the free leg. Other skaters who do it the same:
Chen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EgvZi4WBeQ#t=3m7s
Jin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyomxmuH79I#t=5m53s
Brezina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz_jA6WYVy0#t=4m20s
Tomono: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNCsQ-91Ddw#t=5m55s
Sadovsky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4F6IGrqx9k
Trusova does hers leading with the heel, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwMvv1xMrPA#t=1m10s , as does:
Hanyu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ms8jDSlWTU#t=8s
Tursynbaeva https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2ZUrmSG0fo#t=3m55s
Kovtun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6tZrF2op0E#t=5m35s
Fernandez https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYKoJ9w0Jd4#t=9s
Chan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4_mV97g_PM
Goebel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqux9QAteBs
Tara Lipinski also led with her heel, although hers is more of a "scooped" free leg instead of one that starts near the ice and drives up with the heel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGxYGVJvBAg#t=1m58s
I've always learned salchows with the free leg checked and then swinging through with the toes such that the feet sort of point inward to each other ("bowlegged" if you will) on takeoff, instead of the feet parallel to each other and leading with the free heel, but clearly there's more than one way to execute the jump. I really don't think there's any right or wrong, but this is an observation.
Is there a trend for quad salchows to lead with the heel moreso than the toe of the free leg and is there any benefit for one or the other from a jump mechanics standpoint (like does one get more height, a faster backspin, require more snap, etc.). Is there an aesthetic preference for people (trying to put aside whether it's your fave/non-fave doing said version of the technique)? Any skaters/coaches out there prefer doing it/teaching it one way instead of the other?