2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating
- Thread starter Spirals for Miles
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I don't know. I would have said that they will be there on Thursday practices since Zagreb is 3 hours away from Moscow. Except if they want to do at least one practice in the main rink before the SP. Then Tuesday is posible too.
You are 100% totally right, there was no way Z wasn't going to the OG and the pool was smaller to choose from in 2018. I was just sayin
I will say this, didn't RUF name the Euro and Universiade team like right after the women skated the free at Russian Nationals or the next day? If I remember right (so that's a 50/50), they didn't give Liza the option to skate at Euros like they did Zhenya and made her 1st alternate and Zhenya 2nd alt, and only assigned her to Universiade with Zhenya being 1st alt. Do you think they will name the world team after Russian Cup Finals?
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My view is that it is just about 1 spot because the other 2 are taken by Alina and Sofia. Both of them will not participate in the Cup of Russia. This last spot will be contested by Zhenya, Liza, and Stasya.
Stasya will get it if she skates clean to her full potential with the other two not delivering. Something like Stasya 210, Zhenya and Liza below 200.
Liza will get it if she skates clean with triple axels both in the SP and in the free program with all other planned content delivered. Then it will manifest that she has recovered. Her body of work during the first part of the season will put her above Zhenya no matter how Medvedeva will have skated.
Zhenya needs Liza not to be perfect, she has to win about 5 points over her and not to lose to Stasya. In fact it means her skating with not more than 1 mistake in 2 programs.
If all three bomb big time then anything is possible, I mean Tarusina and Gubanova. Although this scenario is highly unlikely.
I think the Russian Cup might end up something like this
1. Konstantinova
2. Medvedeva
3. Tuktamysheva
4. Tarusina
5. Gubanova
6. Guliakova
7. Vasilieva
8. Leonova
9. Talalaikina
10. Nugumanova
11. Gracheva
12. Sakhanovich
I think Konstantinova is the one to beat but she has to go clean. She has the upper hand as the senior national "champion" for the 3rd Worlds spot. But if Medvedeva goes clean she's impossible to beat, however that is unlikely imo. Tuktamysheva I fear might struggle a bit here.
Also as Spirals for Miles pointed out above - The battle between Sakhanovich/Tarusina/Gubanova for GP spots is interesting. I have a feeling only one of these three will get GP assignment(s) next year. Given that Tarusina is the most consistent one, she is the one to beat, but if Gubanova goes totally clean she can beat anybody!! Sakhanovich is the one that has A LOT to prove here.
I'm glad to see Talalaikina will be there. She caught my eye at Nationals but had unfortunately some severe mistakes on her edge jumps. Hopefully she can improve here.
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I want Gubanova on the worlds team
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I'm sneakily hoping that Tarusina pulls out a win here :luv17:
There's a part of me that agrees with you. With her consistency she is a very solid choice for the Worlds team. But the three big girls have to totally bomb though for that to happen.
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Her situation makes me so sad, I really hope she gets GPs next year but the field will be packed with the 3A...
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Yeah, I don't want that.
But Tarusina would be a great worlds team member with her rock solid consistency, and if she's consistent here and others have a mistake or two, she could beat them. Wonder what would happen then :think:
Well, what can happen is that next year with that consistency she might be the new Samodurova! GP Final, European champion....
Well, what can happen is that next year with that consistency she might be the new Samodurova! GP Final, European champion....
Unless Sofia, Liza and Alina nosedive, Evgenia continues to struggle like she has this season, it's unlikely anyone outside the 3A get big competitions. Consistency is a good thing but not as exciting as quads, and Tarusina won't have the reputation points of Sofia/Alina/Liza/Evgenia.
True. But anything can happen on the ice. Things change. Ice is slippery. Remember 12 months ago, I don't think anyone was foreseeing Samodurova becoming the European Champion. Samodurova was a nobody. She almost didn't get two GP assignments. But she got it in the end as the host pick at Rostelecom and qualified for the GPF. But even then no one was seeing what was happening. Not even after Nationals. What was happening was that she was very consistent and she was building up her brand and it all payed off at Europeans.
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You are underestimating russian judges again
RusNat showed that even with 3 falls, uncalled flutz and URs Medvedeva easily surpassed clean Tarusina :sarcasm: So, all 3 main contenders should fall atleast 4 times for Tarusina to be able to even begin hope for something 
She has literally 0% chances to get on the world team.You are underestimating russian judges again
But I do think that the judges might be a little bit more harsh on Medvedeva this time? One failure at Nationals might be forgiven (and overscored) but a second failure will bring down the PCS me thinks.
No there are 18 spots. Max three per event that makes 3 x 6 events = 18 spots. And if RusFed want their girls to have a chance to qualify for GPF they would give 2 spots to 9 girls that makes 18.
GP rules says that everyone in the Seasons Best Top 24 are guaranteed at least one spot.
Problem is this year that there is 11 Russian Ladies in the SB Top 24. So RusFed will probably cut two...
To complicate things further there is also the Ranking List Top 24. Sotskova will surely be there so there is another one - 12 girls.
And there are rules about returning ladies after injury (Pogorilaya/Radionova) who is also guaranteed a spot - 14 girls.
Next year will be interesting to see what RusFed will do. They will simply have to cut the number of ladies...
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Let's assume for the sake of discussion that the world team is Liza, Alina, and Sofia and they all place top 12
There are 18 GP spots
Then we'd have:
1-2. Alina
3-4. Liza
5-6. Sofia
Others that are guaranteed 1 by SB but likely to get 2:
7-8. Alexandra Trusova
9-10. Alena Kostornaya
11-12. Anna Shcherbakova
13-14. Evgenia Medvedeva
Here's where it gets trickier. The federation could choose to submit Sakhanovich to get spots (top 24 SB), but they might not since she didn't go to nationals. They could also submit Sotskova (top 24 WS) but they might not since she did so poorly at nationals. Assuming they do submit both, it would likely be:
15. Sakhanovich
16. Sotskova
And then
17. Konstantinova (top 24 SB, highest senior at nationals)
18. Tarusina (top 24 SB)
If they don't submit either, name, Konstantinova and Tarusina would either both get 2, or Gubanova would get 1 and one of Stanislava/Anna T. would get a second one.
At least that's how it looks now.
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each country have 18 spot max. 3 spot per event (6 event). But there is 11 ladies in top 24 SB that eligible for senior next season, and including top 24 WS there is another 1 ladies (that are not in the top 24 SB)
