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I think Eteri‘s approach for Zhenya was the right one. We all see what results we get if a skater of 15/16 is allowed to choose their programs themselves. Elena Radionova‘s Titanic, while skated with passion, was certainly not something ”the judges would like“. I don‘t necessarily agree that this strategy is good for the sport itself but it brings results. Eteri chose programs for Zhenya she knew the judges would like and Zhenya - being the way she is - understood this and worked with them. And most of the time she liked them and skated them with passion (W.E., 2017 SP, Anna Karenina etc), so I don‘t think there was much of a problem for her or her feeling not “taken seriously“ or as an adult. Fact is, she wasn‘t an adult. Now she‘s grown and maybe all the experiences at the Olympics and through this season have shown her that she needs a different approach now? She‘s older now and it‘s not solely about the results now, it‘s about skating in general, a creative journey. So she went to Orser. I understand that people could think of his comment as shady or even offensive even though I personally don‘t see it this way. It’s more like “Yeah, she‘s here now and she‘s doing fine and we‘ll let her have more input in the programs than the seasons before because she‘s an adult now.“ And we have to remember that this is sports.rus, they tend to quote out of context.
About the “cutthroat" atmosphere at camp Eteri. Why does anybody try to deny it? I mean, cutthroat does sound harsh but they certainly have a lot of rivalry there. That‘s part of their strategy. Medvedeva stated it long before she was in this “difficult emotional situation“. Polina Tsurskaya talked about it, too. Eteri literally said it in an interview about Medvedeva and Zagitova that she had them both on the ice the same time to push them. That she sometimes told them to watch how the other one was doing a jump and learn to do it better. And I bet that‘s how Alena, Anna, Sasha and the other push themselves, too. I don‘t think this is necessarily bad, it‘s just not suited for some people. Polina and Evgenia couldn‘t or didn‘t want to deal with this method anymore and left. And I think this is quite natural. Young girls as Sasha and the others are - as Medvedeva was - they might thrive from seeing the others do better, it really might help them get their work ethics straight. It‘s sometimes probably the only method to give them motivation at such a young age. To be the best. They‘re still girls, sometimes they might not want to train. But when you see someone do better than you, it starts a fire and you‘re like: “I want to be able to do this, too!“ And you start training. But someone like Medvedeva, who has long now realised this might not need it anymore. And then the constant comparison can become stressful. Same for Tsurskaya.
So, I really don‘t get why people are trying to deny that the atmospheres at Team TCC and Team Tutberidze are vastly different. They are. Doesn‘t mean one is superior to the other. It just means one might be suited better for one particular skater than the other. And I think that‘s what Orser meant. And I can only agree with him. Tutberidze‘s methods work splendid with younger skaters or those who might need some additional outside force to help them work hard. But some might need something different. People are different after all. And there‘s no shame in this. It‘s quite natural I‘d say.
Omg, same! I never saw this woman even on a photo but everyone keeps talking about her like: “She‘s the evil journalist!!“ Don‘t tell me how she looks like. I don‘t want to lose my imagination of her as Rita.
About the “cutthroat" atmosphere at camp Eteri. Why does anybody try to deny it? I mean, cutthroat does sound harsh but they certainly have a lot of rivalry there. That‘s part of their strategy. Medvedeva stated it long before she was in this “difficult emotional situation“. Polina Tsurskaya talked about it, too. Eteri literally said it in an interview about Medvedeva and Zagitova that she had them both on the ice the same time to push them. That she sometimes told them to watch how the other one was doing a jump and learn to do it better. And I bet that‘s how Alena, Anna, Sasha and the other push themselves, too. I don‘t think this is necessarily bad, it‘s just not suited for some people. Polina and Evgenia couldn‘t or didn‘t want to deal with this method anymore and left. And I think this is quite natural. Young girls as Sasha and the others are - as Medvedeva was - they might thrive from seeing the others do better, it really might help them get their work ethics straight. It‘s sometimes probably the only method to give them motivation at such a young age. To be the best. They‘re still girls, sometimes they might not want to train. But when you see someone do better than you, it starts a fire and you‘re like: “I want to be able to do this, too!“ And you start training. But someone like Medvedeva, who has long now realised this might not need it anymore. And then the constant comparison can become stressful. Same for Tsurskaya.
So, I really don‘t get why people are trying to deny that the atmospheres at Team TCC and Team Tutberidze are vastly different. They are. Doesn‘t mean one is superior to the other. It just means one might be suited better for one particular skater than the other. And I think that‘s what Orser meant. And I can only agree with him. Tutberidze‘s methods work splendid with younger skaters or those who might need some additional outside force to help them work hard. But some might need something different. People are different after all. And there‘s no shame in this. It‘s quite natural I‘d say.
She was anti Eteri before being anti Eteri was even a thing. What gives? Did something personal take place?
I’ve never seen her but I always envision Rita Skeeter
Omg, same! I never saw this woman even on a photo but everyone keeps talking about her like: “She‘s the evil journalist!!“ Don‘t tell me how she looks like. I don‘t want to lose my imagination of her as Rita.