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2014-15 Japanese Nationals Ladies SP

ks777

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I don't get Hongo's score. She has one of the ugliest postures among the top Japanese skaters with really weak spin positions. Nothing special at all.
 

Meoima

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I don't get Hongo's score. She has one of the ugliest postures among the top Japanese skaters with really weak spin positions. Nothing special at all.
Jumps not UR or wong edge. I bet JSF wants to make sure they choose the lady with the least jump problem.
 

FlattFan

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Hongo's pcs are lower than a few ladies. The only benefit she got from today was UR call. I don't think she has any but the caller might as well give her 2.
 

burntBREAD

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Jumps not UR or wong edge. I bet JSF wants to make sure they choose the lady with the least jump problem.

Hongo flutzes and she does actually have UR problems, but mostly on the end of her difficult combos. Certainly less than Miyahara or Murakami, but she does have issues too. So yes, lady with the most passable jumps..
 

shiroKJ

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The tech panels at these nationals have been ridiculous :slink:
 

juuryokunashi

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Jumps not UR or wong edge. I bet JSF wants to make sure they choose the lady with the least jump problem.

That's the thing these days; JSF is looking for a lady who can hold mettle against Russian ladies who are good at jumps -- doesn't matter if there's not much refinement or artistry in the athlete because good jumps --> good TES --> good PCS (which is how it usually progresses in the IJS).

I'm worried about the junior ladies though. I wonder if they can still hold onto their leads against Kanako and Haruka with the longer program and the revised layouts of their programs to accommodate senior FS requirements (and I am still rooting for both Kana and Haruka to recover!).
 

ks777

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Hongo's pcs are lower than a few ladies. The only benefit she got from today was UR call. I don't think she has any but the caller might as well give her 2.
I am sorry but Hongo's PCS is only .12 lower than Miyahara. No way she should be getting that kind of PCS. Kato got 5 points lower than Hongo in PCS.. no way. I find Kato so much more interesting than Hongo.
 
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Lota

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Well obviously Rika still has a lot of work to do, but I enjoy watching her skate, I find it entertaining :)
 

makaihime

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Feb 20, 2014
What happened here....? Its like the Japanese tech panel is out to destroy everyone :shocked: Kanako.....Please pull a Takahito and fight for that spot tomorrow, this cannot be how you end your career :cry: And as happy as I am for Rika, unfortunately I just cannot come to like her skating. Nothing stands out to me but its nice to see her doing well this year.
 

MIM

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Kanako,,,, sigh,,,,,
I really think Kanako is the best veteran this season after Carolina, Mao, and Yuna left. I am just wondering what holds her back..:hopelessness: While Wagner soars getting all the great pcs and finds her way to every podium, Kana struggles in her nationals. I do think Kana has become a wonderful skater. She has the best short program this season and she performed beautifully.. Please please don't make me cry,, I just hope she goes to the World and ends her career in a high note.
 

katymay

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Love Satoko's program....a masterpiece of choreography well suited to her skating style. What a pleasure to watch.
 

katymay

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Just my opinion of course, but I think the top 3 here are better than the top 3 Russians. I think the Russians better all watch out for Wakaba, once she masters the spins...look out. Her jumps are amazing.
 

leolion11

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That's the thing these days; JSF is looking for a lady who can hold mettle against Russian ladies who are good at jumps -- doesn't matter if there's not much refinement or artistry in the athlete because good jumps --> good TES --> good PCS (which is how it usually progresses in the IJS).

I'm worried about the junior ladies though. I wonder if they can still hold onto their leads against Kanako and Haruka with the longer program and the revised layouts of their programs to accommodate senior FS requirements (and I am still rooting for both Kana and Haruka to recover!).

I believe that's probably the case but then again Rika's been held down in PCS in international competitions compared to the Russian ladies because her presentation is a lot weaker though she has rather good jumps, so it's still her main weakness.

I hope the junior ladies will be fine. Hopefully wakaba can skate another clean program and stay on the podium :cheer2:
 

FlattFan

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Wakaba is unpolished at this point. She has the TR and the big jumps, which will help her. She needs to be packaged correctly and some political push to get to the top.
She can out jump the Russian girls. Needs a top tier coach to fight for that pcs.
 

ks777

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Wakaba is unpolished at this point. She has the TR and the big jumps, which will help her. She needs to be packaged correctly and some political push to get to the top.
She can out jump the Russian girls. Needs a top tier coach to fight for that pcs.

I think Wakaba needs a coach who can help her with her PCS. She is fast and her jumps are good but her presentation is boring and unpolished. Marin Honda is so much more polished.
 

purpledream

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I think Wakaba needs a coach who can help her with her PCS. She is fast and her jumps are good but her presentation is boring and unpolished. Marin Honda is so much more polished.

I just can't wait for Marin Honda to be out on the junior season! (and her senior debut at nationals would be sensational given her present quality of skating!)
 

leolion11

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I just can't wait for Marin Honda to be out on the junior season! (and her senior debut at nationals would be sensational given her present quality of skating!)

Yes! She has good jumps and it'll be great to see her perform at the junior level. Hope she keeps those jumps even after puberty
 

sk8ingcoach

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Nov 25, 2012
Those UR calls for so many girls are absolutely ridiculous. Wakaba Higuchi UR ??????????? Are u kidding me.
 
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