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2014 Golden Spin of Zagreb

juuryokunashi

On the Ice
Joined
Aug 12, 2014
So from what I can gather (since we don't have an update on results in that page just yet) the Top 5 after Men's SP:

1 Denis TEN KAZ 92.51
2 Konstantin MENSHOV RUS 82.33
3 Michal BREZINA CZE 80.68
4 Michael Christian MARTINEZ PHI 74.45
5 Ivan RIGHINI ITA 71.79

Unless I was wrong somewhere (could not see the GoldenSpin twitter handle's tweet on Brezina but I see it on the hashtag #GoldenSpin results). I'm hoping that no one bombs the FS though (looking at you, Denis, even if you have that 10-point cushion), but I still kiiiiinda want Brezina to win. ^^;;

ETA: Results out (on printed paper, hahaha), the listed Top 5 Men after the SP = on-point. Let's hope everyone does well at their respective FS programs!
 
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dorispulaski

Wicked Yankee Girl
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http://www.croskate.hr/GS47/html/SEG007.HTM <--- Ice Dance scores

I'd argue the caller was really nice! 35.88 TES?! That's higher than Chock & Bates TES from Skate America! (who previously had the highest TES, ha!) :laugh:

Their SB TES previously didn't even break 30 (28.55 from Skate America this season) and now they have top-tier TES? :laugh:

Hubbell and Donahue's previous PB TES in the Short Dance was from way back at Worlds 2012: 32.64.

Really, this is not beneficial for the skaters at all.


Not all teams got the largesse:

1 Charlene GUIGNARD / Marco FABBRI ITA 66.40 35.88 30.52 7.55 7.45 7.75 7.70 7.70 0.00 #6

Previous PB 58.17 2014 Europeans

2 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA 66.40 34.76 31.64 7.90 7.85 8.00 7.90 7.90 0.00 #5

Previous PB 61.05 2014 4CCs

3 Sara HURTADO / Adria DIAZ ESP 59.38 30.06 29.32 7.20 7.10 7.40 7.60 7.35 0.00 #1

Previous PB Olympics 2014. 58.58

4 Alexandra NAZAROVA / Maxim NIKITIN UKR 58.20 30.72 27.48 7.10 6.70 6.95 6.80 6.80 0.00 #3

Previous PB 57.44 Youth Olympic Games 2012

5 Evgenia KOSIGINA / Nikolai MOROSHKIN RUS 52.00 25.00 27.00 6.80 6.55 6.90 6.75 6.75 0.00 #7

PB JGP Lake Placid 2012 59.44

6 Olesia KARMI / Max LINDHOLM FIN 49.24 27.56 22.68 5.70 5.60 5.65 5.70 5.70 1.00 #9

PB 49.80 at Finlandia 2014

7 Celia ROBLEDO / Luis FENERO ESP 47.48 26.04 21.44 5.35 5.10 5.65 5.35 5.35 0.00 #11

Previous PB 43.72 World Jr. Championships 2013

8 Karina UZUROVA / Ilias ALI KAZ 45.90 24.70 21.20 5.45 5.25 5.35 5.35 5.10 0.00 #2

Previous PB 43.71 Youth Olympics 2012

9 Marie-Jade LAURIAULT / Romain LE GAC FRA 43.62 23.06 20.56 5.40 5.10 5.20 5.05 4.95 0.00 #10

First ISU competition eligible for PB

10 Cagla DEMIRSAL / Berk AKALIN TUR 37.52 19.60 17.92 4.45 4.25 4.55 4.75 4.40 0.00 #4

PB 49.64 Pokal d. Blauen Schwerter 2012

11 Valeria GAISTRUK / Alexei OLEJNIK UKR 36.84 19.32 19.52 5.15 4.70 4.90 4.75 4.90 2.00 #8

PB 49.02 ISU JGP Pokal der Blauen Schwerter 2014


And who is on the tech panel?

Panel of Officials

Function Name Nation
Referee Mr. Istvan SUGAR HUN
Technical Controller Mr. Walter ZUCCARO ITA
Technical Specialist Mr. Tomas KIKA SLO
Assistant Technical Specialist Sergei BARANOV UKR

Judge No.1 Mr. Yuriy GUSKOV KAZ
Judge No.2 Ms. Anastassia MAKAROVA UKR
Judge No.3 Mr. Stefan GRAMPELHUBER AUT
Judge No.4 Ms. Tatiana YORDANOVA BUL
Judge No.5 Mr. Massimo ORLANDINI ITA
Judge No.6 Ms. Marina SUCHKOVA RUS
Judge No.7 Ms. Marta OLOZAGARRE ESP

Data Operator Tomislav BISCAN CRO
Replay Operator Natasa BAHAT CRO
 
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luvsasha

Final Flight
Joined
Apr 26, 2005
So from what I can gather (since we don't have an update on results in that page just yet) the Top 5 after Men's SP:

1 Denis TEN KAZ 92.51
2 Konstantin MENSHOV RUS 82.33
3 Michal BREZINA CZE 80.68
4 Michael Christian MARTINEZ PHI 74.45
5 Ivan RIGHINI ITA 71.79

Unless I was wrong somewhere (could not see the GoldenSpin twitter handle's tweet on Brezina but I see it on the hashtag #GoldenSpin results). I'm hoping that no one bombs the FS though (looking at you, Denis, even if you have that 10-point cushion), but I still kiiiiinda want Brezina to win. ^^;;
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I am torn between wanting Brezina to win and wanting Denis to skate well because I think his FS is fantastic. So I guess if one wins, and one finishes second, but they both skate well I'll be happy.
 

Mrs. P

Uno, Dos, twizzle!
Record Breaker
Joined
Dec 27, 2009
You're right Doris. But I'm scratching my head at the fact that G/F increased their TES by some 7 points in two weeks?!

But you are right that we have not seen video, so maybe they improved greatly.
 
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juuryokunashi

On the Ice
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Aug 12, 2014
I am torn between wanting Brezina to win and wanting Denis to skate well because I think his FS is fantastic. So I guess if one wins, and one finishes second, but they both skate well I'll be happy.

I am inclined to think Denis will win it (that 10-point cushion), but from my observations once he does a great SP he, more often than not, usually bombs his FS. >_> I am hoping that he would deliver though. I am curious at how great his FS really would be if skated clean. (Granted, I'm not a fan of Denis Ten, but I wish for him to do great this year, in the wake of his Olympic Bronze).

Brezina though. Personally I want to see him win things because I think he deserves it--just that he, like many other, headcases a lot. ~_~
 

luvsasha

Final Flight
Joined
Apr 26, 2005
I am inclined to think Denis will win it (that 10-point cushion), but from my observations once he does a great SP he, more often than not, usually bombs his FS. >_> I am hoping that he would deliver though. I am curious at how great his FS really would be if skated clean. (Granted, I'm not a fan of Denis Ten, but I wish for him to do great this year, in the wake of his Olympic Bronze).

Brezina though. Personally I want to see him win things because I think he deserves it--just that he, like many other, headcases a lot. ~_~

Yep....unfortunately that's the problem with liking a lot of the skaters right now. They could either skate really well - or really bad. Denis does have a nice cushion but I think he did at TEB too and then he skated badly. Brezina was off at SC, so he could bomb too. I really hope they don't, but who knows? Menshov could skate well enough to win the whole thing. Now wouldn't that be funny?

ETA: Standings and scores (finally!!!)
Men - Short Program

Result Details
Men - Short Program

Result Details

Pl. Name Nation TSS
= TES
+ PCS
+ SS TR PE CH IN Deduction
- StN.
1 Denis TEN
KAZ 92.51 50.91 41.60 8.25 7.95 8.55 8.35 8.50 0.00 #21
2 Konstantin MENSHOV
RUS 82.33 44.28 38.05 7.60 7.40 7.65 7.70 7.70 0.00 #12
3 Michal BREZINA
CZE 81.62 45.12 37.50 7.70 7.15 7.55 7.60 7.50 1.00 #1
4 Michael Christian MARTINEZ
PHI 74.45 40.55 33.90 6.65 6.60 7.00 6.70 6.95 0.00 #2
5 Ivan RIGHINI
ITA 71.79 37.74 35.05 6.80 6.65 7.30 6.90 7.40 1.00 #10
6 Grant HOCHSTEIN
USA 69.69 35.79 33.90 6.80 6.60 6.85 6.80 6.85 0.00 #7
7 Moris KVITELASHVILI
RUS 66.16 34.81 31.35 6.30 6.15 6.25 6.35 6.30 0.00 #19
8 Alexander SAMARIN
RUS 65.88 33.68 32.20 6.55 6.25 6.45 6.50 6.45 0.00 #11
9 Tomi PULKKINEN
FIN 65.63 33.98 31.65 6.50 6.05 6.40 6.25 6.45 0.00 #13
10 Dmitri ALIEV
RUS 63.48 31.63 31.85 6.35 6.15 6.40 6.55 6.40 0.00 #20
11 Phillip HARRIS
GBR 59.13 31.03 29.10 5.90 5.60 6.00 5.80 5.80 1.00 #16
12 Christopher BERNECK
GER 58.26 27.36 30.90 6.20 5.85 6.35 6.25 6.25 0.00 #8
13 Sondre ODDVOLL BOE
NOR 56.15 29.60 26.55 5.35 5.05 5.55 5.30 5.30 0.00 #9
14 Pavel IGNATENKO
BLR 55.69 28.14 27.55 5.75 5.30 5.60 5.55 5.35 0.00 #3
15 Vladislav TARASENKO
RUS 55.61 27.16 29.45 6.00 5.70 5.90 5.95 5.90 1.00 #17
16 Carlo Vittorio PALERMO
ITA 54.78 27.38 27.40 5.40 5.25 5.70 5.50 5.55 0.00 #18
17 Alexander BJELDE
GER 53.89 27.14 27.75 5.75 5.20 5.55 5.60 5.65 1.00 #15
18 Panagiotis POLIZOAKIS
GER 50.46 22.91 27.55 5.50 5.25 5.60 5.55 5.65 0.00 #6
19 Charlie PARRY-EVANS
GBR 48.29 24.39 23.90 4.85 4.50 4.95 4.90 4.70 0.00 #4
20 Ali DEMIRBOGA
TUR 43.11 20.26 22.85 4.85 4.35 4.65 4.50 4.50 0.00 #5
21 Tomas KUPKA
CZE 39.59 17.44 22.15 4.55 4.35 4.20 4.60 4.45 0.00 #14
22 Mario-Rafael IONIAN
AUT 39.27 16.72 22.55 4.70 4.40 4.50 4.55 4.40 0.00 #22
 
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krispy

Rinkside
Joined
Nov 12, 2014
Would it be reasonable to hope that there could be videos for this event? I mean Ten skated brilliantly yet there is no video for it, Kiira will skate for the first time in a long time so please someone upload it!
 

AnnaTheMusician

On the Ice
Joined
Dec 28, 2009
Kiira fell 3F but 3Lo-2T + 2A obviously ok. Total 56.22 and TES 27.14. So the PCS must be 28.08 (if one point deduction). Go Kiira!! :cheer:
 

viennaskater

Medalist
Joined
Feb 18, 2014
We can't watch the live stream we can't see the results updated in real time.
We are in the Internet era.
The facebook page of the event not updated to the 2014 competition. A local student can do it for peanuts.
Terrible homepage of the event.

So bad so sad.
What's wrong with Zagreb?
Anti-climax for the popularization of ice skating and totally no care for the fans that can not make it to Croatia.
Is this really the oldest world ice skating competition (as it is promoted)?
Time to discontinue this competition :(

It's really bad - are the organisers still living in the Middle Ages?? We had live streams of Nebelhorn, Ice Challenge and Warsaw Cup. I can see no reason why this can't be streamed as well, or at least, UPDATED REGULARLY!

Shameful!
 

chairmanmao

Final Flight
Joined
Dec 10, 2013
From Golden Spin:

TEN KAZ
4toe clean, 3axel - amazing, 3lutz-3toe, he came back for his title ☺ AMazing performance. Poetry! 92.51 - 1st!

Yay Denis!!!!

Where is the video of this? I've been searching on Youtube but nothing. No videos and no protocols.
 

chairmanmao

Final Flight
Joined
Dec 10, 2013
Why are the judges here so stingy with PCS? Denis scored over 50 in TES but only received 41.60 in PCS and 8.25 in SS. He got 42.86 in PCS at TEB with an error on his quad yet here Denis seemed to me delivered a flawless program but dropped more than a point in PCS.
 
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AnnaTheMusician

On the Ice
Joined
Dec 28, 2009
PCS should be 30,08 (27,14 + 30,08 - 1 = 56,22). That's quite reassuring, 30+ PCS after a two year absence.

Stupid me :drama: Counting the wrong direction. Don't blame me, too much enthusiasm with Kiira and too less information :laugh: Thanks for correcting, Pohatta!
 
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