2016 Skate America Men's SP

[ruffledgrouse]

Bonyan: His skate was such a tremendous disappointment :luv17:

did you hit the wrong emoticon or are you just a sassy b

 

[4everchan]

funny... i didn't see Nam's spin problem at all? they weren't good but I never thought he would have lost one completely... I noticed Jason's issue ... and also thought his 4T was UR. I will have to watch again or drink as much as the tech panel

 

[Plisskin]

Shoma's 4F takeoff has not improved at all: http://i.giphy.com/3o7TKJs5F0reh3xR0A.gif

Yeah...it is impressive that he does this jump, but the take off and landing is not pretty. Yuzuru fans, doesn't Yuzuru do 4F now?

 

[shiroKJ]

I actually think it will be fantastic once he skate it fully commited

I loved it, especially when he was skating to it during the commercial bts. Maybe he should get a red costume.

 

[MaiKatze]

I meant I would have scored Brendan higher than Jin B.

In a world of neutral judges this might be possible but Boyang is a Worlds medalist now. That gives that extra push.

 

[Meoima]

Yeah...it is impressive that he does this jump, but the take off and landing is not pretty. Yuzuru fans, doesn't Yuzuru do 4F now?

I doubt that Yuzuru can do 4F given that he never pre-rotate 270 degrees in his Flip or Lutz.

 

[karne]

I meant I would have scored Brendan higher than Jin B.

Oh, good. We are friends again. :yes:

 

[nolangoh]

So only Nam and Adam skated clean, the clean-skate rate is 20% in the men SP.

And out of the 30 jumping passes in this SP event, 15 of which are clean (given positive GOE), the clean-jump rate is 50%.

Welcome to men figure skating in 2016!

 

[Yatagarasu]

funny... i didn't see Nam's spin problem at all? they weren't good but I never thought he would have lost one completely... I noticed Jason's issue ... and also thought his 4T was UR. I will have to watch again or drink as much as the tech panel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlPlnKN5isY

It's up already.

 

[berry8]

did you hit the wrong emoticon or are you just a sassy b

Choose whichever makes you more comfortable

 

[NAOTMAA]

Yuzuru's SP is quite horrible this year

Maybe, maybe not (its all personal opinion ) but Yuzuru is YUZURU. His actual programs don't matter anymore. He has the reputation and a spot in history. The judges won't consider dumping him, especially for a fellow countryman, unless he completely unravels to the point of craziness. Shoma will have to do something extra extraordinary for him to challenge

 

[ramurphy2005]

funny... i didn't see Nam's spin problem at all? they weren't good but I never thought he would have lost one completely...

I know it was that sit spin he lost, and British Eurosport guy was talking about how he was working hard to get the rotations he needed. I don't know enough about the rules to know what technical reasons call for a spin to be invalidated aside from obviously missing it.

 

[4everchan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlPlnKN5isY

It's up already.

yeah.. i just thought the spin was ugly... but not invalid? can someone with real knowledge enlighten me

 

[matmuh]

yeah.. i just thought the spin was ugly... but not invalid? can someone with real knowledge enlighten me

its the Polina Affect

 

[4everchan]

thanks kermit I guess he was wobbly too on his sit position... Patrick lost a spin once being wobbly on his camel position...

I know it was that sit spin he lost, and British Eurosport guy was talking about how he was working hard to get the rotations he needed. I don't know enough about the rules to know what technical reasons call for a spin to be invalidated aside from obviously missing it.

 

[Meoima]

Adam and Ashley are twins from different mothers, I believe.

 

[4everchan]

its the Polina Affect

i think Nam and Polina are probably already done... if ever they were one

kids these days... chasing too many quads

 

[4everchan]

they shop at the same stores, they go out to the same club and they both are lifetime members at mac cosmetics

Adam and Ashley are twins from different mothers, I believe.

 

[MeltedIce]

I'm confused, is this because of the sleeveless shirt? Are they not allowed? And what does it mean getting a "costume violation" if it does not affect the score?
thanks!

Uh oh, Adam got a costume violation (oops), no point deduction though

 

[Li'Kitsu]

Shoma's 4F takeoff has not improved at all: http://i.giphy.com/3o7TKJs5F0reh3xR0A.gif

I was really hoping he would improve on that. And the landing was really, really iffy too

To be honest, Shoma is still the cutest guy and a great performer, but I'm really disappointed with this SP. He has improved since last season overall, but all the main weaknesses are still there: bad jumping technique, very wild landings, way too much crossovers & two-footed skating and basically nothing but void between the technical elements. Again, his skating is beautiful overall and he delivers the music well, but I would have really hoped for more improvement.

Other side of the spectrum - Boyang is really, really going for it. Messy as his jumps were, the program is so much more complex than last year, there is so much more going on, more commitment, better edges, better flow, better speed... he might take a while until he gets this program out clean, but the guy is going full in. No resting on anything. That makes me really, really respect him. (Now hopefully his LP can live up to this too... )

And because I do need to rant about the judges a bit: in this sense, Boyang has way more TR than Shoma. Even if Shoma still has better quality, scoring them with 6.5-7.75 compared to 8-9(!) is not fair, IMO.