2017 Canadian Nats Senior Mens SP

[Violet Bliss]

Oh. And for worlds. Let's wait for tomorow but i would say kevin. Elladj had a great performance but kevin's quad power is a decisive asset. Actually, canada should send kaetlyn to men's worlds for the sp.

SC should listen to you.

The Men didn't listen to me when I told them to jump like the Canadian Women tonight. They would rather show off tomorrow, I think, or hope.

 

[ancientpeas]

Why can't I find a the Pairs thread? Have I been blinded by Kevin Reynold's hair??

 

[4everchan]

Patrick take those suspenders off for the love of god!!!!

That is exactly what i plan to tell him when i see him later tonight

 

[Violet Bliss]

That is exactly what i plan to tell him when i see him later tonight

Right. Only the suspenders.

 

[SarahSynchro]

Your daughter and you move to japan. More poje for me.

Jokes on you, Dreamboat Andrew lives in Moscow now, so I'll be moving there after leaving my kid in Tokyo at the stopover. I'm sure he doesn't want to play father to a Yuzuru worshipper stripped of her Canadian citizenship.

 

[Sabrina]

How come that Patrick got over 90 points for that awfully skated program. I attended Skate Canada, and that where I completely lost the confidence that he is so special. Hanyu has better steps and ice coverage. Patrick is super accomplished skater, but there is nothing super special in his skating. Daisuke, Lambiel, were masters of interpretation and skating skills. Patrick has wonderful skating skills but not as good as others...
I am sorry, as I don't want to hurt his fans...But I can't understand why judges give these marks.

 

[Violet Bliss]

How come that Patrick got over 90 points for that awfully skated program. I attended Skate Canada, and that where I completely lost the confidence that he is so special. Hanyu has better steps and ice coverage. Patrick is super accomplished skater, but there is nothing super special in his skating. Daisuke, Lambiel, were masters of interpretation and skating skills. Patrick has wonderful skating skills but not as good as others...
I am sorry, as I don't want to hurt his fans...But I can't understand why judges give these marks.

He got high marks because other than the step outs, he did everything else - the elements and the components - extremely well.

 

[SarahSynchro]

Oh my god, who signed my kid up for a goldenskate account? ^^^ Way to rub it in.

 

[Violet Bliss]

Oh my god, who signed my kid up for a goldenskate account? ^^^ Way to rub it in.

This too is your fault.

 

[SarahSynchro]

That is exactly what i plan to tell him when i see him later tonight

I think somebody here forgot to set his alarm cock, because you're clearly dreaming.

 

[Weathergal]

Hi, the Skate Canada site isn't updating the PDF. Could someone please let me know top placements--maybe top 7 or top 10?

 

[Violet Bliss]

I think somebody here forgot to set his alarm cock, because you're clearly dreaming.

Or he finally availed himself to some special ice wine in Ontario ............

 

[Violet Bliss]

Hi, the Skate Canada site isn't updating the PDF. Could someone please let me know top placements--maybe top 7 or top 10?

http://skatecanada.ca/results/2017CDNS/2017CDNSSeniorMenCR.pdf

http://skatecanada.ca/results/2017CDNS/2017CDNSSeniorMenSPDRO.pdf

 

[Weathergal]

http://skatecanada.ca/results/2017CDNS/2017CDNSSeniorMenCR.pdf

http://skatecanada.ca/results/2017CDNS/2017CDNSSeniorMenSPDRO.pdf

Thanks Violet Bliss. Those are the two I've found, but the first one only has a few competitors, and the second one doesn't have the final flight. Or am I missing something? I'm a little tired from staying up way too late watching skating, so perhaps I am...

 

[4everchan]

Right. Only the suspenders.

Well. We have to start somewhere. He can put them back on after he has removed the rest.

 

[4everchan]

Or he finally availed himself to some special ice wine in Ontario ............

Not even. They did not have any.

 

[Violet Bliss]

Thanks Violet Bliss. Those are the two I've found, but the first one only has a few competitors, and the second one doesn't have the final flight. Or am I missing something? I'm a little tired from staying up way too late watching skating, so perhaps I am...

They were complete and final when and after I linked them.

 

[rain]

So this was by far the most disappointing discipline today. All the others showed up and knocked it out of the park.

I am extremely concerned for what will happen to Canadian men's skating after Chan retires next year. We have Chan, and an aging pack of what are never going to be anything but middling skaters. Reynolds does not have the basic skating skills to compete and at this point I think it's fair to conclude that he never will. There are a whole heap of men in the world who now have more and much better quads than he has. Given his injury history, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him retire after Korea as well. Firus has the best skating skills of the bunch behind Chan, but his jumps are way too inconsistent and he's never going to have multiple quads. Balde is another inconsistent jumper and middling skater who's never going to climb the international ladder. I hope, but have serious doubts that Nguyen is going to make it into the form he needs to be in to be a world challenger. He already needed serious and concentrated work on his basic skating skills, but his growth spurt meant that his jumps went AWOL as well. Who else is there that's pushing the boundaries and climbing the ranks? There's almost no time left to fix this problem.

 

[kresslia]

So this was by far the most disappointing discipline today. All the others showed up and knocked it out of the park.

I am extremely concerned for what will happen to Canadian men's skating after Chan retires next year. We have Chan, and an aging pack of what are never going to be anything but middling skaters. Reynolds does not have the basic skating skills to compete and at this point I think it's fair to conclude that he never will. There are a whole heap of men in the world who now have more and much better quads than he has. Given his injury history, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him retire after Korea as well. Firus has the best skating skills of the bunch behind Chan, but his jumps are way too inconsistent and he's never going to have multiple quads. Balde is another inconsistent jumper and middling skater who's never going to climb the international ladder. I hope, but have serious doubts that Nguyen is going to make it into the form he needs to be in to be a world challenger. He already needed serious and concentrated work on his basic skating skills, but his growth spurt meant that his jumps went AWOL as well. Who else is there that's pushing the boundaries and climbing the ranks? There's almost no time left to fix this problem.

Stephen Gogolev is 12 and doing crazy things (3As, quads). He's an Orser student, just won the Junior division here. He can't compete on the JGP circuit yet but you can bet he'll be a force when he gets there.

Protocols here: http://skatecanada.ca/results/2017CDNS/2017CDNSJuniorMenFPDRO.pdf so you can see the crazy layout he's attempting at such a young age

 

[4everchan]

Dear friends, I thought I would go man by man... and give you a report of how i felt things were at the rink... however... well everyone is pretty gloomy about the men event so I will just chime in with a general post for now... and perhaps a few details...

I had to walk from TD place to my hotel which is a pretty good distance... all the buses were full and there is no point waiting at this time of the day for the next bus... which may risk being full and is 30 minutes later... so I was reflecting about the men on my way back...

First, let's go back to the first competitor... Shaquille Davis... he was so much fun to watch, almost landed a perfect 4S and his triple axel was also almost there.... I thought we would be in for a treat...

Well let's go back before the competition.... when knowing that the 1st guy to skate can land a quad... and that many more guys can too... including a 15 year old boy... and that Kevin has 2 planned in his program... it think that everyone got really nervous about their SP. For instance, how often have we seen Nam struggling on his combo??? His 4S has been a very stable jump for him as well... I mean many guys struggled with their combo which in theory, is the easiest element for many in the SP... (compared to a quad taken out of steps and a 3A)

Laurent Guay skated really well... His program was so refined... His Base value is way too low for him to get anywhere but he was a definite pleasure to watch.

Samuel Morais has a very nice 3A...

I really disliked Anthony's music... fake medieval boom box music sounds so bad in a rink...

Edrian Paul Celestino is so much fun... Nice 3-3

Mitchell Gordon skated well to a very sleep inducing program.

Bennet is so nice to watch... but he usually does a bit better technically... I hope he redeems himself tomorrow, just like his "gal"

Joseph : I don't think he has a 3A yet.... anyways he did a double near the very end so I guess he doesn't.... well get one soon because you have tons of potential

Roman is special. His speed, his edges, his presence.... i loved watching him.

Elladj : OMG he is so smooth.... like he is gliding on the ice without any effort. his 3a and combo were great and his skate was the highlight of the men's event... I wasn't sure I liked his spins much though.... but the rest.. WOW... He got a huge standing ovation and you could see how emotional he was.... As he always bombs at Canadians, I think he was pretty happy with this skate.

Keegan... oh why....

Nic... OMG OH WHY... gorgeous but gorgeous 3A.. it was amazing.. the rest... UGH... He kept us connected though because he is a great showman.

Nam : well I have my answers : he is slower... but not by much... the issue is that he does slow down before the jumps... I have no idea how he managed to land the 3a.... he had no speed at all... he just went up and landed it.... If he learns to acquire speed and then use the momentum of the speed in his timing , he could be a superstar. The biggest question we all had was ? OH??? He is done with Polina's coach in California and back in Ontario??? WTH??? I was surprised by his spins in a positive way... he is not below average here compared to the other guys tonight... some struggled with centering and speed much more than him. So I wish him to feel happy in his new environment... He has a great showman personality and I hope we get to see him reach his full potential one day.

Kevin... I have always been a huge fan of Kevin... I still am but it was easier to see why sometimes he doesn't get the judges' love... Seeing him live exposes a lot of issues....Beautifully constructed program though that hides his lack of speed. He had very slow spins though and his footwork didn't do it for me.

Liam.. If you are going to strip for us, do it after you skate.. before can work too... but not during...

PATRICK ohhh my chiddy.... I think he felt the splat fest that was happening... still... despite the small errors, it was a gorgeous skate. Patrick is true magic.... he is carving in the ice like his blades are knives into butter... so smooth... the way he moves.. he is constantly turning and turning...

i have always loved Patrick's Skating... but now it's even more when you have watched 21 men, and you see patrick... you just give the high scores... he deserves every point he gets. As I said, I was impressed by his spin. they are nicer than on tv...

I am falling asleep as a type and I haven't had my drink nor organized my day tomorrow.... and i was hoping to watch tennis... and write two more reports... so that will be it for the men ladies and dance later