Post 550, the very first post
Post 554, which were further explanations of 550
The followings are the quotes I was addressing to in my post 550, EVAMARIA removed the part probably the second day after my post 565. But luckily in post 547, right before my post 550, milkgirl quoting her and claimed it was “Top Jump competition”, and she then replied”thank you milkgirl”
“Quote Originally Posted by EVAMARIA View Post
Watched the Mens FP.
Favourite is Jason, stunning performance great program. This is figure skating for me.
Nathan, sorry but here is the depressing part. That was not figure skating for me but jump skating. His PCS is unbelievable. Skating/preparing for the big jumps The steps ok though. It's makes me sad that this is what ISU wants figure skating to look like.
There used to be a jump competition in France cant remember the name, perhaps there still is...”
This is the post 547, a reply to the above post by EVAMRIA
Post 548
Post 537
This post 463 of Men’s SP thread is the “step out” referred in my 550 and related. Despite several posts pointing out later Nathan didn’t have a step out, but rather a turn out, she never corrected her post of the step out.
And this post, post 216 is actually in this very thread. This was the initial post which made me want to post about bashing. I originally replied to her but later deleted, and post all my complaint in 550 and related.
There were criticism about his SP being the same as Nemesis, he never changed or anything, which I never responded. Those are their observations and opinions,
which even though I don’t agree with, I think it is pointless to argue about.
Amazed by the amount of Nathan bashing. And I didn’t know Nathan performed 4 minutes of jumping. I must have watched a different competition then, watching the audiences went wild during the footwork. I guess those in the arena are not figure skating fans, but crazy jumping lunatics.
I am wondering how this bashing would end? Maybe Nathan better stop ruining this artistic sport by just go back school and quit skating after Beijing.
Post 554, which were further explanations of 550
If you think twisting a turnout as a step out in his SP is not an attack,
If you think his perfect time to music lz combo and 3A, his spread eagle right after the only successful 4F in this competition as only jumping attempts, his risky but hard practised footwork are nothing but jump attempts are not bashing or attacks, then well people are not bashing in your standard, and he is a jumping machine indeed,then there is no bashing.
He won by 44 points, even if you reduced all those “PCS” inflation, he is still dominating, unlike some posts complained his the inflated PCS contributed his dominance. To me, twisting of facts is bashing.
The followings are the quotes I was addressing to in my post 550, EVAMARIA removed the part probably the second day after my post 565. But luckily in post 547, right before my post 550, milkgirl quoting her and claimed it was “Top Jump competition”, and she then replied”thank you milkgirl”
“Quote Originally Posted by EVAMARIA View Post
Watched the Mens FP.
Favourite is Jason, stunning performance great program. This is figure skating for me.
Nathan, sorry but here is the depressing part. That was not figure skating for me but jump skating. His PCS is unbelievable. Skating/preparing for the big jumps The steps ok though. It's makes me sad that this is what ISU wants figure skating to look like.
There used to be a jump competition in France cant remember the name, perhaps there still is...”
This is the post 547, a reply to the above post by EVAMRIA
The competition was called Top Jump.
Post 548
Ok thank you milkgirl!
Post 537
This is the most accurate response, thankyou.
Because anyone with half a brain knows that one doesn't preclude the other? Nathan being "dominate" should have nothing to do with his PCS and it should be noted that a contribution to his "dominate" performances has been his excessively inflated PCS. There is no universe where Chen should beat Jason on PCS unless Jason has a total meltdown. That Nathan was put four whole points above an exquisite Jason free is beyond a joke.
This post 463 of Men’s SP thread is the “step out” referred in my 550 and related. Despite several posts pointing out later Nathan didn’t have a step out, but rather a turn out, she never corrected her post of the step out.
From the ISU comms.
Bullet points:
1) very good height and very good length (of all jumps in a combo/sequence)
2) good take-off and landing
3) effortless throughout (including rhythm in jump combination)
4) steps before the jump, unexpected or creative entry
5) very good body position from take-off to landing
6) element matches the music
Now, to start at +4 or +5, the skater MUST achieve ALL THREE bolded bullet points. To me, you can't give 2, and I would find 1 debatable - it was good, but I wouldn't say it was huge. But at any rate, the very presence of a step out means that Nathan cannot start at anything higher than +3 because he did not get all three bolded bullets.
So I'm starting with +1 after the bolded bullets (I'm not giving the very good height/length. It was big, but I've seen bigger). Of the other three bullets, I'm only giving 5 for body position. No steps or creative entry, and I didn't think it matched the music that well. So I'm starting at +2.
Reductions for errors: the reduction for "stepping out of landing in a jump" is -3 to -4.
So the very highest that Nathan should have got for that Lutz is 0, because you can't start any higher than +3. I had it at -2 (reducing 4 from +2).
And this post, post 216 is actually in this very thread. This was the initial post which made me want to post about bashing. I originally replied to her but later deleted, and post all my complaint in 550 and related.
Because when you're getting ninety-****ing-four PCS for skating jump to jump then having a fun ChSq anyway, why bother?
There were criticism about his SP being the same as Nemesis, he never changed or anything, which I never responded. Those are their observations and opinions,
which even though I don’t agree with, I think it is pointless to argue about.