2021 U.S. Nationals: Senior Ladies - Short Program

[moonvine]

NO! No commentary! That's the beauty of the way things are.

Cool with me I can use the $10 a month for other things. Even ice network came up with Nationals commentary and they interviewed every single skater there and made it really special for them. And until last year I had the option of Skate Radio as well.

 

[alexocfp]

I’d rather our ladies never won another medal of any kind than be walking eating disorders.

The way things are going, it may be another century before we see an American medalist. Haha

 

[moonvine]

The way things are going, it may be another century before we see an American medalist. Haha

Maybe. I’d still rather see them healthy. And Eteri’s “first place is a winner and everyone else is a looser” is not healthy.

 

[alexocfp]

Maybe. I’d still rather see them healthy. And Eteri’s “first place is a winner and everyone else is a looser” is not healthy.

It‘s not healthy for us mere mortals but top level skaters aren’t mere mortals and have that win at all costs mentality.

Explains why they are at the top of their profession.

 

[moonvine]

It‘s not healthy for us mere mortals but top level skaters aren’t mere mortals and have that win at all costs mentality.

Explains why they are at the top of their profession.

It’s not healthy period. We have plenty of top men and ice dancers.

 

[elbkup]

I feel so sad for her now. I wish I could tell her she’s still got this (not this competition obviously. But “it.”)

She looks wonderful and her achievements are EPIC! She did really well tonight, the sparks are there.. I know she wants to win.. it’s in her DNA I guess but she is entitled if anyone is to rest on those laurels a bit... I am looking forward to her free skate

 

[alexocfp]

It’s not healthy period. We have plenty of top men and ice dancers.

You think if you really dug deep, you wont find some unhealthy aspects with them as well?

 

[moonvine]

You think if you really dug deep, you wont find some unhealthy aspects with them as well?

Probably so. But we have an embarrassment of riches among the men. If they believed only first place were worthy of praise we might only have Nathan. Which would be a tragedy. I can’t imagine someone thinking they were a loser because they came in 2nd to Nathan. Anyone who wants to call Jason a loser is going to have to fight myself and a lot of other people on this board.

 

[moonvine]

She looks wonderful and her achievements are EPIC! She did really well tonight, the sparks are there.. I know she wants to win.. it’s in her DNA I guess but she is entitled if anyone is to rest on those laurels a bit... I am looking forward to her free skate

I just worry because though I was happy enough with her skate she most definitely was NOT and that makes me nervous. Real people were really cheering for her and NO ONE is there.

 

[elbkup]

I just worry because though I was happy enough with her skate she most definitely was NOT and that makes me nervous. Real people were really cheering for her and NO ONE is there.

I had to watch her skate after the fact I was so nervous... went into the kitchen and made a cup of tea then watched it later along with the last few skaters.. my stomach gets tied in knots otherwise
Hope she does skate tomorrow.. it is important for her to but i won’t watch til it is over ...

 

[CanadianSkaterGuy]

Karen was exquisite tonight and the best performance for me. Her jump landings are still questionable but she is otherwise splendid.

Mariah was fairly solid a bit overscored, but the most egregious one was Bradie. I like her program but there is no way that 3T was even close to rotated.

Good on Liu too placing second without her 3A but it should be first.

 

[moonvine]

I had to watch her skate after the fact I was so nervous... went into the kitchen and made a cup of tea then watched it later along with the last few skaters.. my stomach gets tied in knots otherwise
Hope she does skate tomorrow.. it is important for her to but i won’t watch til it is over ...

The woman is a star. She just needs to know it.

 

[Ic3Rabbit]

It‘s not healthy for us mere mortals but top level skaters aren’t mere mortals and have that win at all costs mentality.

Explains why they are at the top of their profession.

As a former top level skater, I'll back @moonvine here b/c it's not healthy for any of us no matter our mentality.

 

[withwings]

Is there any link where I can watch now ladies and pairs sp ??

 

[saturdaysun]

It’s not healthy period. We have plenty of top men and ice dancers.

The US does not have some moral high ground over other countries. But convincing ourselves we do is very American.

 

[moonvine]

Is there any link where I can watch now ladies and pairs sp ??

What country are you in?

 

[moonvine]

The US does not have some moral high ground over other countries. But convincing ourselves we do is very American.

No doubt we have our problems. Do you believe the answer is to add other problems to our bucket in hopes of getting a shiny shiny medal?

 

[saturdaysun]

No doubt we have our problems. Do you believe the answer is to add other problems to our bucket in hopes of getting a shiny shiny medal?

I don't think the lack of medals is due to some higher standard of morality.

 

[*~RussianBleux~*]

No doubt we have our problems. Do you believe the answer is to add other problems to our bucket in hopes of getting a shiny shiny medal?

where are you even getting that Eteri tells her skaters they are “losers” if they don’t come in first place or that the Russian ladies are unhealthy? If you are referring to their size, maybe they are just naturally small.
I feel like none of this stuff has ever been proven and people throw it out there just to hate on them.

 

[alexocfp]

As a former top level skater, I'll back @moonvine here b/c it's not healthy for any of us no matter our mentality.

But you still put yourselves through it, don’t you?

And if you don‘t someone else will.

Call it unhealthy, unethical, or whatever. But the fact remains that in order to be the best, you have to make a lot of sacrifices. And let’s face it, as spectators we benefit because of that mentality.

I can’t, and won’t, condemn any athlete that has a take no prisoners approach. I love Eteri‘s school and the skating it produces. People willingly go there.

And I love that they want to be even better.